The Cyclone Thread

I bought a cyclone yesterday off someone who was in on robs group buy. build quality is outstanding but dont get me wrong to me it does not justify the price tag. I prefer my atomic cyclone sold. I think for my vaping style the atomic suits me perfectly. please dont fight with me lol just my 2c

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Excellent. So I'm in the search for an atomic for now...

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As much as I drool over the photos you guys post.

I personally can't justify the price tag either.

The atomic and Tobh are epic as bf. This would have to be absolutely mind blowing.

Even then I wouldn't get it at that price. I'd put it towards another REO tbh.
 
thanks @Rob Fisher the AFS is definatly a winner!!!

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She looks stunning but most important how is the Vape? :rock:


The cyclone on its own is already very good! the chamber holds all the flavor and once drilled bigger you can get very nice clouds and flavor. I was playing with the AFS last night using some bobas as i find the bobas juice is a good juice to test as it changes (lower ohm u get sweeter vape less tobacco and higher ohm you get more tobacco) depending on your build and air flow control. Using a 6 wrapps ugly coil with 26g i find that when i open it up full i get massive clouds with lots of flavor still. But i have it open to half and its juice perfect! im yet to try a dual coil but i will be doing some research on that tonight and will get back to you :p
 
Note to self: stay out of this thread :p loving the cyclones guys!

@Rob Fisher, I think you must tell Rob from Reosmods to just sell them standard with a cyclone :p :rock:
 
Need help with my afc . Cant make it work . Maybe im not good with dual coil.
I ve done 10 wraps at 1.5 mm id and when torch it and screw it in etc it state. 2.2 ohm. Take long to fire and the left one fire before the rigth one . Any idea ?
 
Need help with my afc . Cant make it work . Maybe im not good with dual coil.
I ve done 10 wraps at 1.5 mm id and when torch it and screw it in etc it state. 2.2 ohm. Take long to fire and the left one fire before the rigth one . Any idea ?
I'm sure our guru @Andre can advise.

what reading are you getting with a single coil it in?
 
I even check if was touching somewhere because maybe i cut the leg too long . And bend it around the post .
 
Note to self: stay out of this thread :p loving the cyclones guys!

@Rob Fisher, I think you must tell Rob from Reosmods to just sell them standard with a cyclone :p :rock:

I think he would if he could get stock... but they have been so hard to get for so long... They are way more expensive than the RM2 but still people queue up to buy them... I have stopped arguing when people want to discuss it because for me they are simply outstanding and I am happy I have now replaced all my RM2's with Cyclones and Cyclops's.
 
Need help with my afc . Cant make it work . Maybe im not good with dual coil.
I ve done 10 wraps at 1.5 mm id and when torch it and screw it in etc it state. 2.2 ohm. Take long to fire and the left one fire before the rigth one . Any idea ?

Sorry can't help yet @andro... I have only used it with a single coil...
 
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Dual coil setup on Cyclops. Came out at 0.5 ohms. This thing is dangerous! 9/10 wraps, 28g, 1.2mm ID

Cracked AFC wide open, vaping in the car, and you exhale and can't see anything for a few seconds. Absolutely loving it!

@andro, there is definitely something not right with that build. Seems to me that one of the legs is not captured correctly against the screw. Either remove legs and refit, or rebuild from scratch. I have seen dual and quad builds do that when the legs are just touching but not in proper contact. It throws the resistance right off and makes it much higher.

Try again, dual coil is definitely worth it!
 
I have had mine for a while now and really cant complain about it. Its a really good vape.
 
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Dual coil setup on Cyclops. Came out at 0.5 ohms. This thing is dangerous! 9/10 wraps, 28g, 1.2mm ID

Cracked AFC wide open, vaping in the car, and you exhale and can't see anything for a few seconds. Absolutely loving it!

@andro, there is definitely something not right with that build. Seems to me that one of the legs is not captured correctly against the screw. Either remove legs and refit, or rebuild from scratch. I have seen dual and quad builds do that when the legs are just touching but not in proper contact. It throws the resistance right off and makes it much higher.

Try again, dual coil is definitely worth it!
I just did . And yes it was wrong. When i took them apart one leg was at least 6 mm longer than the other 3. No idea how it happened but will try again .

Do you torch it before installing each one or do u install it and squeeze it while firing it ?
 
I just did . And yes it was wrong. When i took them apart one leg was at least 6 mm longer than the other 3. No idea how it happened but will try again .

Do you torch it before installing each one or do u install it and squeeze it while firing it ?

Usually I torch before, and then squeeze and fire to get rid of hot spots, this time the blow torch was out of liquid gas, so I just fired and it went well.

To be honest I have never had a multi coil setup where the coils both lit up at exactly the same time, so don't worry if that is what happens with yours
 
I just did . And yes it was wrong. When i took them apart one leg was at least 6 mm longer than the other 3. No idea how it happened but will try again .

Do you torch it before installing each one or do u install it and squeeze it while firing it ?
I torch in a ceramic tweezer before installing. After installation, I do a very quick pulse, insert the mandrel and move the mandrel like a snooker que to and fro, take out mandrel, pulse, repeat......gets rid of any hot spots or hot legs....works every time.
 
Here is a picture of both versions... the one on the left is the 2013 version with the concave deck and hex screw versus the one on the right that is the 2014 version with flat deck and lipped cup with phillips screws.

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And despite what everyone hopes the top caps are not interchangeable... yes a very silly move from Vicious Ant! Be that as it may they are still my favourite attys of all time!
 
Thanks to @Rob Fisher - I am the proud owner of the new Cyclone with the extra AFC cap.

I thought I would report back on my first experience and hopefully I can learn some tips from the more experienced Cyclone users.

For my first try, I figured I would give the Cyclone a full bash with dual coils and make use of the AFC cap to its full potential. I wanted a coil around the 0.7 ohm range so I thought I would do two 7-wrap coils with 30g wire - so as not to take up too much space for my first build.

Let me say upfront I have very little experience with dual coils. I have built some of them before on the Trident but have never used duals for all day vaping.

Here is what came out
- dual coils, each was 7 wraps of 30g Kanthal - around 1.5mm ID
- the resistance came out at 0.81 ohms. Not bad.
- build was quite easy on the Cyclone deck, just like the RM2
- am still wicking with organic cotton.

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Yes I know, the one coil is a bit higher than the other one ;-)

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Also, the one coil is slightly closer to the edge than the other one. They're not identically positioned. They did heat up at about the same time though. One was very slightly faster than the other.

I wondered how I would know how to line up the coils with the airholes on the AFC cap. The cap can be pushed on to the deck anywhere, but the distance between the airhole slots is fixed, so one needs to know exactly where to position the coils beforehand. On the normal RM2 (Reomizer) I just make a black mark with a koki pen on the base where the airhole is when the cap is screwed in. Then I build the coil in line with that mark. I suppose I need to do something like this with the Cyclone AFC.

I am using HHV's Gaia (Tobacco juice) for this. I know this juice fairly well. It's a really tasty no-nonsense tobacco.

So how was the vape?

It was interesting. I'm not super impressed yet and am thinking that the Cyclone (with AFC and dual coils) may just not be my cup of tea.
- the main thing for me is that I don't think I'm a lung hitting kind of guy. At least not for all day vaping. With the airholes wide open or even half open, you can take a deep long lung hit and cloud the whole room. It is impressive. But that's just not my style of vaping. Not the Cyclone's fault at all. Just maybe not something for me. One does get throat hit, but its different, a bit burny with less concentrated flavour. I like the shorter draws that are rich in flavour with short strong punchy throat hits.
- when I close the airholes down to mimic the kind of draw I like on the RM2, it is better, but still sub-par compared to a well setup RM2 with single coil. I get less flavour and quite a bit less throat hit. It also could be that when the air hole slots are much smaller, my coils are not lining up with the airholes properly. I will concede that this is my first build on the Cyclone so it may well get better with more practice and different configurations.

On the vaping action:
- it takes a little bit longer to warm up than I'm used to - but not too long
- there is a definite "pop" at first toot when cold - with a bit of spitting
- not that noisy but does sound like a muffled low-pitched steam train
- I sometimes get a bit of juice in my mouth, I think from a bit of splatter.

This is a new experience for me on multiple fronts. It's difficult to know whether to blame the dual coils or the Cyclone with AFC.

Perhaps some of the more experienced Cyclone folk can comment on their experiences and it will help me to refine things.

Or maybe the Cyclone with AFC is more aimed at lung hitting than mouth to lung vaping?
 
Or maybe the Cyclone with AFC is more aimed at lung hitting than mouth to lung vaping?

Hi Ho @Silver I think you may be right about the AFC being for lung hitters and serious sub ohmers... While I haven't played much with the AFC top yet nor have I built dual coils for it I far prefer the standard Cyclone with a single Micro coil of around 1Ω and from a flavour point of view is as close to perfection as I think I'll ever get... for me it is simply spot on!

Plus I only have one LP at the moment having sold my other two last night and will wait for the replacements before spending some time with the AFC.
 
Hi Ho @Silver I think you may be right about the AFC being for lung hitters and serious sub ohmers... While I haven't played much with the AFC top yet nor have I built dual coils for it I far prefer the standard Cyclone with a single Micro coil of around 1Ω and from a flavour point of view is as close to perfection as I think I'll ever get... for me it is simply spot on!

Plus I only have one LP at the moment having sold my other two last night and will wait for the replacements before spending some time with the AFC.

Thanks @Rob Fisher -
I do want to give the dual coil AFC lung hitter a proper go before I officially declare it not for me.

I have to still try out the standard Cyclone top with a single coil. Am looking forward to that too!
 
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