The Origen Little 16 BF Thread (OL16)

brohannes said:
Hi everyone!

Great thread! In fact the best I've found on the net researching this atty, because of the great build examples and tips. Hope you don't mind me posting here from far far away that is Hamburg, Germany:)

Reason I signed up here is I'm looking for some guidance. I've ordered this atty to be my first RDA (or rebuildable anything) along with a HCigar VT Inbox, because I heard that it's very versatile. That's great because I'm only four weeks into the vape journey. At the moment I am doing MTL using a UD Mesmer and iStick30 (at around 10-13W) but I'm getting annoyed with replacing coils because of the little liquid holes in the Mesmer don't allow me to "chainvape" (like having 10-15 draws on it in a row).

I want to start using this MTL style and maybe check out DLs later. I need to find out two things: what to build and what battery to get. I'm thinking Kanthal A1 28G, 7 wrap, 2.5mm ID right now, either single or dual. Not sure which is better for trying MTL. Next question is what wattage I need for flavors, throat hit and vape to develop: I've had the Idea of using NCR18650GA (2.8C at 3500mah) that would limit me to around 20W, but provide ample capacity that might even get me through the day in one pack. Now I'm worried that it the ramp time with such a build would be too long at that low a wattage, hence vaping MTL would only work if I sucked on it for like 10 seconds. I do prefer the good old 3.5 sec draw from cigs right now. If 20W were fine, I'd like to get that battery and enjoy the greater capacity - I find that very convenient - and for trying DL I could get some with higher C rating. However I wouldn't like to buy these 20W fellas just to find out I can't get a nice MTL out of them, right?

If you could help pointing me in the right direction both with the single/dual and the respective batteries matters it would be greatly appreciated!

BTW I'm super stoked for this experience - I imagine in a big step up, both in vaping experience as in skills required. Trying hard to keep composure here :)
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Good choice, I think you will like your O-16 a lot.

They are such versatile flavor atty's that I bought 4 of them for 4 of my Reos. Unfortunately they rarely get used anymore (have way too many other Reos/BF atty's). When last used I preferred dual 3mm coils in mine for restricted DLH's, and used 26 & 28 N80 wire.

Have fun with it...
 
brohannes said:
Hi everyone!

Great thread! In fact the best I've found on the net researching this atty, because of the great build examples and tips. Hope you don't mind me posting here from far far away that is Hamburg, Germany:)

Reason I signed up here is I'm looking for some guidance. I've ordered this atty to be my first RDA (or rebuildable anything) along with a HCigar VT Inbox, because I heard that it's very versatile. That's great because I'm only four weeks into the vape journey. At the moment I am doing MTL using a UD Mesmer and iStick30 (at around 10-13W) but I'm getting annoyed with replacing coils because of the little liquid holes in the Mesmer don't allow me to "chainvape" (like having 10-15 draws on it in a row).

I want to start using this MTL style and maybe check out DLs later. I need to find out two things: what to build and what battery to get. I'm thinking Kanthal A1 28G, 7 wrap, 2.5mm ID right now, either single or dual. Not sure which is better for trying MTL. Next question is what wattage I need for flavors, throat hit and vape to develop: I've had the Idea of using NCR18650GA (2.8C at 3500mah) that would limit me to around 20W, but provide ample capacity that might even get me through the day in one pack. Now I'm worried that it the ramp time with such a build would be too long at that low a wattage, hence vaping MTL would only work if I sucked on it for like 10 seconds. I do prefer the good old 3.5 sec draw from cigs right now. If 20W were fine, I'd like to get that battery and enjoy the greater capacity - I find that very convenient - and for trying DL I could get some with higher C rating. However I wouldn't like to buy these 20W fellas just to find out I can't get a nice MTL out of them, right?

If you could help pointing me in the right direction both with the single/dual and the respective batteries matters it would be greatly appreciated!

BTW I'm super stoked for this experience - I imagine in a big step up, both in vaping experience as in skills required. Trying hard to keep composure here :)
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Hi @brohannes
Welcome to the forum - you are most welcome here regardless of where you reside.
We currently have several international members, including long-standing member @Tom , who also resides in Germany.

As for the OL16 - I too have one - and it produces excellent flavour on my Reo mechanical squonker. It squonks very well too. I have only tried dual coil configuration and use it in restricted lung hit mode (with the widest airflow option. I have not tried MTL on it yet but I do know that @Andre uses it in MTL mode. He also likes it a lot.

I think you will enjoy it thoroughly - you will just have to play around with the coils and try different gauges till you get it perfect for your taste.

All the best and let us know how it goes
 
brohannes said:
Hi everyone!

Great thread! In fact the best I've found on the net researching this atty, because of the great build examples and tips. Hope you don't mind me posting here from far far away that is Hamburg, Germany:)

Reason I signed up here is I'm looking for some guidance. I've ordered this atty to be my first RDA (or rebuildable anything) along with a HCigar VT Inbox, because I heard that it's very versatile. That's great because I'm only four weeks into the vape journey. At the moment I am doing MTL using a UD Mesmer and iStick30 (at around 10-13W) but I'm getting annoyed with replacing coils because of the little liquid holes in the Mesmer don't allow me to "chainvape" (like having 10-15 draws on it in a row).

I want to start using this MTL style and maybe check out DLs later. I need to find out two things: what to build and what battery to get. I'm thinking Kanthal A1 28G, 7 wrap, 2.5mm ID right now, either single or dual. Not sure which is better for trying MTL. Next question is what wattage I need for flavors, throat hit and vape to develop: I've had the Idea of using NCR18650GA (2.8C at 3500mah) that would limit me to around 20W, but provide ample capacity that might even get me through the day in one pack. Now I'm worried that it the ramp time with such a build would be too long at that low a wattage, hence vaping MTL would only work if I sucked on it for like 10 seconds. I do prefer the good old 3.5 sec draw from cigs right now. If 20W were fine, I'd like to get that battery and enjoy the greater capacity - I find that very convenient - and for trying DL I could get some with higher C rating. However I wouldn't like to buy these 20W fellas just to find out I can't get a nice MTL out of them, right?

If you could help pointing me in the right direction both with the single/dual and the respective batteries matters it would be greatly appreciated!

BTW I'm super stoked for this experience - I imagine in a big step up, both in vaping experience as in skills required. Trying hard to keep composure here :)
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Yip, as @Silver said, I basically only use OL16s. On the VT Inbox (which I also use) you do not have to worry too much about resistance as you can vary the power to your preference. Around 0.8 ohms or higher should be fine. I use a 2.5 mm mandrel and mostly Clapton wire, which gives great flavour. Otherwise I use 27 gauge Kanthal - just so much easier to wrap than 28 g. I only do single coils.
 
Ooh.. That looks super tasty @Christos !
 
Flava said:
You experience any violent spitting with those coils?
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I did originally but once wicked tightly there are no issues/no spit back.
I find also that if I over squonk I get slight spit back but with the cappy v4 bottles oversquonking is a thing of the past.
 
Christos said:
I did originally but once wicked tightly there are no issues/no spit back.
I find also that if I over squonk I get slight spit back but with the cappy v4 bottles oversquonking is a thing of the past.
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Thanks. Will retry at some point. I must have missed info on bottle, can you please share more info or link on that?
 
Flava said:
Thanks. Will retry at some point. I must have missed info on bottle, can you please share more info or link on that?
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Just google cappy v4 8.5ml. They are expensive but are in my opinion amazing.
 
Has anyone on the forum ever tried the OL16 tank?
@Andre I thought of you in particular - would love to see this go head-to-head with the Gem :rolleyes:
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KB_314 said:
Has anyone on the forum ever tried the OL16 tank?
@Andre I thought of you in particular - would love to see this go head-to-head with the Gem :rolleyes:
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I've got one. It's basically an OL16 with an extra juice tank. It even has a squonk pin so when your 1.5ml juice (I think) is finished, you squonk and use it like a normal OL16.

Very clever though, pulls juice in using pressure. Like an upside down RDTA.
 

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The O-16's had their run when they first came out and saw some restricted lung hit use for awhile. I had mainly bought my 4 O-16's for some of my Reo Mini 1.0's. Don't use those Reos much anymore, so don't use the O-16's much anymore either. But I do still have the patina TRB Mini 1.0 Wood Nymph with an O-16 on it still out though with a DIY palate cleanser in it.

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I need help. Guidance from the reo yoda's.

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In in between the ol16 posts as a center coil? This will allow me to have dual airflow open? Please help.
 

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Hello reo family. I have just come across the following

Wick - braided - 3mm @ 1m length

My question is would this be better to use in the ol16 with ni80@26awg or does it work the same as cb v2?
 

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That looks like silica wick @antonherbst

If so, I have tried it way back on the RM2 with ribbon wire. 4 wraps of ribbon around the wick. My thinking was that it lasts longer than cotton and you can sort of dry burn it wick n all to clean it.

In practice I didnt like it much because the taste wasnt right and it got clogged up. To be fair, it was my Blackbird juice which shreds coils and wicks (its a NET) and i didnt have much experience with this.

I know @johan did that setup for a long time. And @Andre has used ready x wick (also a similar type of wick) for a long time so he can perhaps also guide you here.

Worth a try perhaps by all means, you may like it
 
Silver said:
That looks like silica wick @antonherbst

If so, I have tried it way back on the RM2 with ribbon wire. 4 wraps of ribbon around the wick. My thinking was that it lasts longer than cotton and you can sort of dry burn it wick n all to clean it.

In practice I didnt like it much because the taste wasnt right and it got clogged up. To be fair, it was my Blackbird juice which shreds coils and wicks (its a NET) and i didnt have much experience with this.

I know @johan did that setup for a long time. And @Andre has used ready x wick (also a similar type of wick) for a long time so he can perhaps also guide you here.

Worth a try perhaps by all means, you may like it
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Thanks for the info @Silver i will try it in time and then let you know what my expierience is or maybe find a fellow reonaught that wants to get rid of his. Anyways calling on @Andre and @johan for your inputs on this, before i make my last call.
 
antonherbst said:
Thanks for the info @Silver i will try it in time and then let you know what my expierience is or maybe find a fellow reonaught that wants to get rid of his. Anyways calling on @Andre and @johan for your inputs on this, before i make my last call.
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The trick with this wick is how you get it into the coil.
Either put a straightened out gemclip next to the wick and wrap the wire around that, then pull out the gem clip at the end.

Or tie some cotton around one end and crimp it and then pull it through a pre-built coil. Problem is if the ends fray it is very difficult to get it into the coil. I think @Andre can advise you best on that
 
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