The Origen Little 16 BF Thread (OL16)

OK the Clapton and ReadyXwick is history... kept getting juice in my mouth and the flavour was meh...

Built a 3mm 24g Ni80 Single Coil 7 wraps... vaping XXX on the P67 with O16... starting to like the little atty!
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Rob Fisher said:
OK the Clapton and ReadyXwick is history... kept getting juice in my mouth and the flavour was meh...

Built a 3mm 24g Ni80 Single Coil 7 wraps... vaping XXX on the P67 with O16... starting to like the little atty!
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The O-16's tend to multiply when you really, really like them. ;)

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Mine's great. It's a great flavor atty like the RM2, and the airflow options and the solid posts make it a real winner. It is a lot more durable than the RM2 and that's precisely what I was in search of. It seems like the atty can last near as long as the REO.
 
jifjifjif said:
Mine's great. It's a great flavor atty like the RM2, and the airflow options and the solid posts make it a real winner. It is a lot more durable than the RM2 and that's precisely what I was in search of. It seems like the atty can last near as long as the REO.
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We need to cut comms in this channel until Tuesday. (That's when my OL16 arrives).
I'm getting FOMO just thinking about it.
Just kidding about cutting comms. :D

Curiously I never tried the RM2 as I didn't think I would like the airflow on it.
 
Love the rm2. I've opened the airholes on all of them. Ive also drilled out a second airhole on the opposite side for dual coils. They're absolutely amazing for mouth to lung vaping and flavor. 14620292561131488122929.jpg
 
Sorry for the derailment but a second air hole. Please post some pics of that with dual coil buil in the RM2 thread if you can.
 
Taken care of in the proper thread. Thanks for moving it over there, Stev.
 
Spydro said:
The O-16's tend to multiply when you really, really like them. ;)

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@Spydro I see your airflow holes are on the side? I have always liked my airflow to be on the other side of the button because when I vape the airflow hole is up in the air and any juice in the cap is away from the hole and I seem to get a better vape. Your theory on air hole placement on squonkers please?
 
Rob Fisher said:
@Spydro I see your airflow holes are on the side? I have always liked my airflow to be on the other side of the button because when I vape the airflow hole is up in the air and any juice in the cap is away from the hole and I seem to get a better vape. Your theory on air hole placement on squonkers please?
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Those on the side have dual builds.
Except on the RxW builds, I use big form factor coils and big pulled and rolled wick to hold a lot of juice for my long lung hits. I have a near perfect squonking style, so excess liquid in the atty beyond what the wick holds is not an issue if the atty drains well. Some atty's do drain far better than others though, and some builds with my vaping style do condense vapor on the inside of some atty's that is in effect excess juice. So I still guard against intakes being overtaken by excess juice same as you. On single builds they face the fire button because I fire the button with my index finger whether a top or side button Reo. That puts the intake on top when tilted to vape. On dual builds they go on the sides so no intake is down when I vape. With my Nuppin's that have high center parallel builds I sometimes run them without the AFC sleeve at all. That gives me 3 wide open intake slots for more air, more vapor. So one on each side and one toward the fire button that puts them all in an orientation that would not be bothered by excess juice if it was present.
 
I like the airhole on the opposite side of the button, somewhere in this region.
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Firstly, I hold with the left hand and user my thumb to press the firing button.
Secondly, if condensation occurs outside the airhole it's easy to wipe clean.
Just my thoughts on the airholes.
 
Lushen said:
Stop it now! You are giving me more Fomo

Let us know how it Vapes compared to the cyclone, and if you can stealth Vape with it too.
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Lol, mine stealth vaped (single coil, small air hole) all the way from Cape Town to Brussels and back.
 
Lushen said:
Stop it now! You are giving me more Fomo

Let us know how it Vapes compared to the cyclone, and if you can stealth Vape with it too.
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I still have to put junior to sleep as he prefers dad these days as opposed to mum and then I have to do some work.
Something about an error on a production system that was missed by the testing team.
I'm not one to sort issues or in the morning. I prefer to have it all resolved by the time the users get to their desks in the morning.
Also I have a full reo with a cyclone rewicked that I don't want to take off just yet.
I guess Im afraid of the OL 16 as I'm worried it will unthrone the cyclones.
I might just take my yearly bath after I'm done working as my back is sore.
Might only happen in the morning!
 
Finally got round to the OL16 .

Went with 2.5mm ID
SS 316L
7 wraps
0.44 ohms
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This is my go to build that I use on almost everything so I though let's put the OL16 through the tests that I am familiar with.
Initial thoughts:
Pros:
Phenomenal build deck for a 16mm atty.
Really small atty.
Posts have multiple holes for different positions of coils.
Air flow is lovely and the configuration is excellent I.e multiple mm holes to chose from - options for single or dual air flow and coils.
Drains really well.
Oversquonking doesn't seem to bother this guy.

Cons:
Should have bought 2.
Other than that no cons yet.

Is the flavour better than a cyclone?
So far I don't think so. I am getting less throat hit and some new flavour notes with my favourite juice which is down to the last 10ml.
On that note I am also missing a flavour note that accompanies the throat hit.
This might be the coil placement but I'm pretty happy so I doubt I'll play with the coil position.
My 12mg juice is tasting like 3mg juice but I'm not really after throat hit so it's all good.

Will it dethrone the cyclone?
Probably not as I've spent a considerable amount of time with Cyclones and love them but this atty is up there with a cyclone if not marginally better because of the nice deck.
I would however say that this atty performs marginally better than a nuppin but then again some people prefer throat hit and some don't.
Just my initial midnight thoughts.

Reo mail included in the pic as I only took one pic.
Also the air hole is in the wrong side but I was not in the mood to adjust the positive pin.
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I just want to add that the best attys for me are the ones that are really forgiving in the build.
I.e Im not fond of rebuilding 5 times to get the atty to give decent flavor.
The OL16 was a very decent vape from the first build so that's already a indication of a chicken dinner.
 
Christos said:
Finally got round to the OL16 .

Went with 2.5mm ID
SS 316L
7 wraps
0.44 ohms
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This is my go to build that I use on almost everything so I though let's put the OL16 through the tests that I am familiar with.
Initial thoughts:
Pros:
Phenomenal build deck for a 16mm atty.
Really small atty.
Posts have multiple holes for different positions of coils.
Air flow is lovely and the configuration is excellent I.e multiple mm holes to chose from - options for single or dual air flow and coils.
Drains really well.
Oversquonking doesn't seem to bother this guy.

Cons:
Should have bought 2.
Other than that no cons yet.

Is the flavour better than a cyclone?
So far I don't think so. I am getting less throat hit and some new flavour notes with my favourite juice which is down to the last 10ml.
On that note I am also missing a flavour note that accompanies the throat hit.
This might be the coil placement but I'm pretty happy so I doubt I'll play with the coil position.
My 12mg juice is tasting like 3mg juice but I'm not really after throat hit so it's all good.

Will it dethrone the cyclone?
Probably not as I've spent a considerable amount of time with Cyclones and love them but this atty is up there with a cyclone if not marginally better because of the nice deck.
I would however say that this atty performs marginally better than a nuppin but then again some people prefer throat hit and some don't.
Just my initial midnight thoughts.

Reo mail included in the pic as I only took one pic.
Also the air hole is in the wrong side but I was not in the mood to adjust the positive pin.
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Great stuff. Glad you like it.

I get good throat hit - maybe because my coils are closer to the posts and I use a relatively small air hole for my MTL.
 
The O-16 can unseat the Cyclones IMO, and could easily also unseat the 7 Chalice II and III atty's if I could run them on the Reos the C's are on (only one of them sadly). They could also give the 8 Nuppin's a run for their money too.

Their only con is not owning enough of them.

All four of mine are on Reo Mini 1.0's, the perfect combo with that Reo model. I have 5 Mini 1.0's now, so I'm one O-16 short for them. I get away with it because I seldom run the all tumbled brass Mini 1.0 now that I have the all brass patina Mini 1.0.
 
Lovely series of posts @Christos !
Thanks for the feedback

I am scared of this O16 too - but it seems I will have to go for it -
You make a strong case for it with those build deck comparison photos
 
Silver said:
Lovely series of posts @Christos !
Thanks for the feedback

I am scared of this O16 too - but it seems I will have to go for it -
You make a strong case for it with those build deck comparison photos
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It's mighty tiny in size but the build deck is truly maximised and optimised for monster builds.
I haven't even felt this beast get hot yet.
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I hadn't shaved for 2 weeks because 1. It wasn't bothering me and 2. I didn't have time.
Today I shaved and I discovered a very annoying quality of the OL16.

Might be because wife and junior were waiting in the car and I had to refill and rewick in a hurry but I'm getting some nasty spit back today.
If I fire before the drip tip is in my mouth my nose and upper lip have been burnt by spitback.

Once the OL16 is in the mouth and fired after no problems.
Just some random insights.
 
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