VapeDIY by All Day Vapes Launch Competition - Mystery Prize

[YeOldeOke]

We were the first local manufacturer to offer DIY One Shots to the vaping community back in 2016.
Today we have 77 flavours, mostly very complex flavours, but because the DIY section was just a small part of our business it was not given the attention it deserves.

We have decided to split the DIY section off from our main business for a few reasons - the main two being in order to focus more on it as well as for operational reasons. This 'divorce' will allow us to reduce costs on that section thereby enabling us to offer much better value for money to the DIY community.

The website for Vape DIY can be found at https://vapediy.co.za

Have a look at it, I think you may be pleasantly surprised at what we managed to offer.

To celebrate the launch , we have a very special product that we will offer exclusively to the forum DIY community.

The first person that comes reasonably close to suggesting what this product is will win the product.

Any suggestions that are not close, but that we find interesting may be taken up by us as a future product. Such a suggestion will also win the prize.

No restrictions on posts or persons eligible to participate.

I will be adding the odd post in the next few days

 

[Silver]

Great to see @YeOldeOke
Wishing you guys all the best with the new focused VapeDiY offering

 

[Grand Guru]

A magnetic stirrer.

@Ruwaid @Resistance @ARYANTO

 

[Room Fogger]

Great one @YeOldeOke , think it’s a first on a dedicated site for one shots as well! Good luck with this new part of an already great offering.

 

[Room Fogger]

Premix short-fill kit in your choice of PG/VG and nic ratio, just add a one shot and your on your way. Great way for anyone new to start!
@vicTor @Cornelius @MrDeedz

 

[ARYANTO]

Mmm , think it could be accessory related , maybe proper glass mixing ware instead of syringes and plastic containers ?

 

[Resistance]

The site looks awesome firstly.
And secondly,could it be store credit, or credit facility to forum members.

 

[Resistance]

Now I'm beginning to also think a one shot mixing and diy mixing kit
@MrDeedz @Spongebob @hot.chillie35

 

[SeekerZA]

Congrats and easy site to explore, and that's me viewing from mobile. The categories for various one shots would really help narrow down a buyer's preference.

Could I suggest, if getting more sizes of the various bottles, categorize those also.

Example:
Instead of chubby 60ml bottle, only say chubby bottles, and clicking on it, a different page would show the various chubby bottle sizes.

The surprise product I think is a toss up between the following:

Ultrasonic cleaner
Full DIY mixing kit
Some device to assist with faster steep times


Ok, I may have suggested more than 1

 

[Adephi]

An Ugnaught to do all the mixing?

 

[Resistance]

An Ugnaught to do all the mixing?

You could be hitting the nail on the hammer with this guy

 

[Resistance]

could be a mixing service they offer for diy recipes

 

[Yuvir Punwasi]

I think it’s in housing mixing of diy juice with speedy steeping times of the juice

 

[YeOldeOke]

It's interesting - the evolution of vape DIY.

When I started, I had to spend thousands of rands, well 100's of $ because I was living in the East at the time, on flavourings. Bottles 'n bottles 'n bottles of a huge variety of flavours which I had to import myself because it wasn't available locally. And most of which very little would actually be used productively

'most of which very little' My Ingels kan sometimes suck.



Well, mine didn't look quite as organised....

Source some VG and PG from a local chemical company.....



Import some 99% nicotine. Great stuff to work with Made me very popular in the house, especially combined with the exotic mix of smells wafting through the place from my flavourings.

Add some gloves, goggles, syringes to work with the nic.



Now we're starting to talk DIY!!!

 

[Adephi]

It's interesting - the evolution of vape DIY.

When I started, I had to spend thousands of rands, well 100's of $ because I was living in the East at the time, on flavourings. Bottles 'n bottles 'n bottles of a huge variety of flavours which I had to import myself because it wasn't available locally. And most of which very little would actually be used productively

'most of which very little' My Ingels kan sometimes suck.

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Well, mine didn't look quite as organised....

Source some VG and PG from a local chemical company.....

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Import some 99% nicotine. Great stuff to work with Made me very popular in the house, especially combined with the exotic mix of smells wafting through the place from my flavourings.

Add some gloves, goggles to work with the nic.

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Now we're starting to talk DIY!!!

Now imagine you can get all that in one simple order like a DIY kit.

With an Ugnaught to mix it for you..

 

[YeOldeOke]

I've been called many things in my life but Ugnaught is a first.

Then of course there's the myriad of mixing 'n measuring utensils required.

I never did a proper accounting of what my end product cost me, the vast amount of concentrates never used and the bad mixes going down the drain was simply too much chaos to keep track of.

And talking about accounting, the time spent learning, testing and vomiting was also unaccounted for.


Don't get me wrong.

I can operate a lathe, I've been working on cars since my school days. I've rebuilt V8's and gearboxes. I've cut Minis in half and slapped some serious horsepower into Cortinas. But when I need a car I buy one, I don't build it from scratch. It'd cost too much.

I would, however, build a roadster for the sheer pleasure of it.

And so it is with vaping DIY IMHO. It is really not very economical if all the costs are really accounted for, but there's the pleasure of creating something unique. The sense of achievement.

 

[Hooked]

YeOldeOke You persevered with your DIY though and it resulted in a successful vape business. All your flavours are in-house, thus essentially still DIY. So when we purchase juice from you, it's your perseverance that we're purchasing. And I have no doubt that you still chuck a lot down the drain until you're satisfied that what you're offering your customers is a damn good flavour!!

As always, I take my atty off to you because you offer more flavours than any other local juice manufacturer!

 

[YeOldeOke]

YeOldeOke You persevered with your DIY though and it resulted in a successful vape business. All your flavours are in-house, thus essentially still DIY. So when we purchase juice from you, it's your perseverance that we're purchasing. And I have no doubt that you still chuck a lot down the drain until you're satisfied that what you're offering your customers is a damn good flavour!!

As always, I take my atty off to you because you offer more flavours than any other local juice manufacturer!

@Hooked Thanks. I'm the Ugnaught

My main gripe is that there's no real sense in us developing a lot of new flavours anymore. We already have too many really, it is confusing our customers.

Developing new flavours is the part I enjoy most, but since we can't really do that anymore without going ridiculous with our range, developing new products may take it's place.

 

[ARYANTO]

Please give us an upscale, scale ,the R199.00 ones are really crappy.

 

[YeOldeOke]

Please give us an upscale, scale ,the R199.00 ones are really crappy.

@ARYANTO We import the scales that we use in the business, so I don't know which R199 ones you are referring to. Any examples?

 

[YeOldeOke]

We have always been pretty transparent about our business here on the forum, so I will continue the tradition.

We left the traditional DIY business in 2016 as it became obvious that the small SA market was becoming seriously overtraded and it was a race to the bottom. Volume and margin is key, if both are low bankruptcy is the future.

It saddened me to see Valley Vapour go out of business, or I think they went out of business, as they were one of the pioneers in DIY here in SA. The SA DIY community abandoned them and they deserved better. VV got the SA DIY off the ground as far as I'm aware, I'm not 100% sure as I was not in SA at the time but I believe that was the case.

It didn't surprise me, it was expected. The market here is way too small for the amount of operators in it today. We have no intention of rejoining that race to the bottom, if you'll pardon the expression. I may be old, but I'm not yet suicidal.

We launched the first local one shots in 2016 after requests from the DIY members, and the same thing happened as with the concentrates, the market got flooded with cheap, yes, dirt cheap, offers. Which is why our DIY one shots just sat and ticked over on All Day Vapes with no real effort to push them.

So we will not be carrying a lot of flavouring concentrates and DIY paraphernalia. Going broke is not an attractive option.

Rather we will look at servicing the DIY community in other ways, and offer the products that support the direction we want to go in.

 

[ARYANTO]

@ARYANTO We import the scales that we use in the business, so I don't know which R199 ones you are referring to. Any examples?

Talking about these thingies...139 @ takealot, for home diy , not your scales you use for bulk mixing .

 

[YeOldeOke]

@ARYANTO Yup, those are traditional Chinese products - cheap, not meant to last much past the traders door. Throwaway items.

You do get some of those small things that may last about 6 mths to a year. At the price one cannot really expect much more than that.

We have abandoned the quality at a reasonable price philosophy here in SA, well mostly worldwide. We want cheap, and forget that it inevitably means crap.

It's difficult to try and promote quality at fair price in business these days. Most customers want cheap, period.

There are a few scales available on Fasttech etc that are not too bad. If I try and sell scales like we use, it'd gather dust on the shelves as people race to cheap. Doesn't work in today's environment.

The consumer drives what business offer, many don't seem to realise this. Very few people care about ads re quality, that's regarded as a quaint, aged concept. It's all about the $.

 

[YeOldeOke]

@ARYANTO and everybody else. I apologise if I come across as lecturing, it is not my intention. Maybe I'm just an exasperated old man that has been watching how we, as a collective - the individual matters little in todays mass marketing - have been digging ourselves into a hole by demanding cheap junk, even though we don't realise that is exactly what we are doing.

I don't think there is a viable solution at this time to be honest. The trajectory will continue downward at pace. We just have to live with it.

Buy 5 - 10 at a time, and chuck them in the bin as they fail.

 

[Hooked]

@ARYANTO and everybody else. I apologise if I come across as lecturing, it is not my intention. Maybe I'm just an exasperated old man that has been watching how we, as a collective - the individual matters little in todays mass marketing - have been digging ourselves into a hole by demanding cheap junk, even though we don't realise that is exactly what we are doing.

I don't think there is a viable solution at this time to be honest. The trajectory will continue downward at pace. We just have to live with it.

Buy 5 - 10 at a time, and chuck them in the bin as they fail.

We've become a throw-away society. Hole in your sock? Darn it? Not anymore - throw them away and buy a new pair.

I think of my Dad, who firmly believed in buying quality; save up for it if you can't afford it right now - and take very good care of it when you get it. In the end it didn't help him, because he was stuck with gadgets which he'd had for years and finally needed replacement of parts, which were no longer available!