Worried about addiction

[Zia]

Hi all. So I’m kinda new to vaping and I’ve never smoked a cigarette before. I have some 3mg nic flavours because the store I bought from was out of 0mg. Do you guys think that I’ll get addicted? If so how long will it take? I’ll sell these nic flavours if that is the case. I’m just really worried about becoming addicted.

 

[Silver]

Thanks @Alex !

Dr Farsalinos is amazing

 

[Hooked]

@Alex Thanks so much for this informative post. I love my nic and have sometimes felt concern, especially since heart conditions run in the family. One would of course still need to exercise caution until long-term studies have been conducted. For the time being, I'll continue to vape with Gusto (pun intended)!

 

[Hooked]

http://www.ecigarette-politics.com/is-nicotine-addictive.html

Summary
Is nicotine 'addictive'? Probably not. No one can make definitive statements on this as there has never been any published research in humans. No clinical trial specifically to examine the potential of nicotine to create dependence in people who have never consumed tobacco has ever been published.
There is currently no evidence that it is dependence-forming unless/until it is delivered in tobacco, and especially in cigarette smoke, which is presumed to cause some sort of chemical change in the brain. After smoking tobacco, especially in cigarettes, people may become addicted to smoking and dependent on nicotine. Since there are 9,600 other compounds identified to date in tobacco/smoke, with multiple candidates for potentiators in that mix, it is believed that the synergy of multiple compounds causes a persistent brain chemistry change.
Nicotine, however, is a normal, natural part of the diet and everyone tests positive for it. Because nicotine is well-demonstrated to have prophylactic and treatment functions for neurodegenerative, auto-immune and inflammatory diseases and some cognitive function disorders, it is clearly an active component in the diet with positive and preventative functions - i.e. a nutrient.
There are multiple published clinical trials investigating the positive effect of nicotine supplementation on such conditions, which by definition need to employ never-smokers. Without exception, all report that of the hundreds of subjects who had large quantities of pure nicotine administered to them daily for up to six months, no person ever exhibited the smallest sign of dependence: no withdrawal symptoms, or reinforcement, or continuation of use in any form after the trial finished.
It is impossible to clinically demonstrate any potential for dependence for pure nicotine with never-smokers, no matter how much is given or for how long.
Neither is nicotine associated with cancer or any other disease. There are clearly significant financial and other benefits to maintaining the illusion that nicotine is addictive and harmful, since otherwise such a strong campaign to protect this perception would not be sustained.

@Alex Very interesting, but I think that nicotine DOES lead to dependence thereon. In short, I've smoked, chewed Nicorette (nicotine gum) and now I'm vaping. With all three methods, consumption has increased over time.

If I'm without nicotine for just a few hours (about 5 - 6 hours seems to be my limit) I go into a rapid decline, becoming extremely irritable, verbally aggressive and finally, tearful.

Which variables are common to cigarettes, Nicorette and nicotine in e-liquid?
1. Nicotine, in some form or another
2. Oral fixation - however, if it were oral fixation and not nicotine, then I would remain emotionally stable while chewing ordinary chewing gum or sucking a sweet. I do not.
3. Variable X (unknown to me)

In conclusion, my personal experience suggests that I am dependent on nicotine.

 

[Andre]

@Alex Very interesting, but I think that nicotine DOES lead to dependence thereon. In short, I've smoked, chewed Nicorette (nicotine gum) and now I'm vaping. With all three methods, consumption has increased over time.

If I'm without nicotine for just a few hours (about 5 - 6 hours seems to be my limit) I go into a rapid decline, becoming extremely irritable, verbally aggressive and finally, tearful.

Which variables are common to cigarettes, Nicorette and nicotine in e-liquid?
1. Nicotine, in some form or another
2. Oral fixation - however, if it were oral fixation and not nicotine, then I would remain emotionally stable while chewing ordinary chewing gum or sucking a sweet. I do not.
3. Variable X (unknown to me)

In conclusion, my personal experience suggests that I am dependent on nicotine.

I am too, because I smoked. My nic consumption has decreased over time. Juice consumption has stayed relatively stable.
Your history on the forum seems to suggest your nic consumption went up solely because you were in the initial stages of vaping and finding the nic level appropriate for you.

 

[Room Fogger]

Interesting observations from all. As you may know, I vape a lot, but I have gone from 6 mg Nic when I stopped, and I did feel it then, and did consider upping it, to 3mg on store bought and 2 mg in diy now. I have also done a 0 nic juice, and it did not feel different to the "norm" for me. Consumption did increase slightly, but this was one of the longer days, where I use more in any case.

In my case it seems I need something to do with my hands, it's more the motions, especially while driving. I am going to be trying some more zero nic, but will do nic as I do not think it is too harmfull in the way I am getting it in when compared to when I was smoking. Although one or two attempts cannot yet prove anything, no nic did not turn me in the Grumpy Grinch or Conan, per trying quitting before.

To each his own, and the reasearch is still in its infancy, who knows what they may find. I think use what works for you, but see what happens when you change a variable, that keeps it interesting. I feel better since starting to vape, and hope that this will continue, and that my health will keep on improving.

Happy clouds to all, nic or no nic, as long as it rocks your boat.

 

[Petrus]

 

[SinnerG]

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This is what worries me the most about trying to switch. Still waiting for my stuff to arrive and I've already ordered 4 RTAs.