Liqua - Juice Reviews

[johan]

@Luke5533 as I understand:

PG = propylene glycol (pharmaceutical grade) provides throat hit and also acts as a flavor carrier
VG = vegetable glycerin (pharmaceutical grade) provides the clouds
** PG much thinner than VG

Most e-juice are made with a 50:50 ratio PG/VG although some are available in different ratios. A lot of people dilute commercial e-juice with VG (available from pharmacies and convenience stores like Spar / Pick 'n Pay etc) for a lower nicotine content and/or to mute overpowering flavor, and will also provide a milder throat hit with increased clouds.

Hope it makes sense.

 

[n0ugh7_zw]

Also worth noting, in my experience, the higher the VG content of a juice, the smoother the throat it. High PG juices feel really quite harsh (to me at least)

 

[n0ugh7_zw]

Another thing worth noting, is the VG produces formaldehyde, when its heated to the point of breakdown. So always make sure your coil and wick are well saturated

 

[Luke5533]

Thanks so much for the great answers and speedy reply! My friend has a twisp, and he only uses the twisp flavours with it. I've tried the twisp flavours and they are much smoother than the liqua that i bought. The one i have has a very sharp punch, almost like someone has just falconpunched me in the throat. I would get the twisp flavours of it wasn't for the outrageous prices. I'm hoping that vanilla and blackberry liqua will be better than the energy drink one...

 

[RezaD]

Thanks so much for the great answers and speedy reply! My friend has a twisp, and he only uses the twisp flavours with it. I've tried the twisp flavours and they are much smoother than the liqua that i bought. The one i have has a very sharp punch, almost like someone has just falconpunched me in the throat. I would get the twisp flavours of it wasn't for the outrageous prices. I'm hoping that vanilla and blackberry liqua will be better than the energy drink one...

The Liqua you bought is most likely fake....and does not taste anything like the genuine Liqua. Not that the genuine Liqua is rated very highly - a lot of us started on it but very few of us still vape it. As a straight comparison the Zodiac juices (available from some vendors on this forum) is far far better tasting and has a higher VG content so it's not so rough on the throat. Or do as the rest of us......buy international brands or good quality local brands (check the vendor section and the juice reviews as I do not want to punt my preferences). When you are ready you can even mix your own like I do.

As for knowing if it's fake (most Paki shops sell fake ones) here are some links:

http://www.gocigarette.co.uk/pages/eliquid_liqua_208227.cfm
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.426057067468788.95981.412158112192017&type=1
http://ekretek.com/fake-liqua

 

[Luke5533]

Thanks for the links! All signs point to the flavours i bought being the legit thing. Does anyone know the ratio of PG to VG in liqua flavours? I would MUCH prefer something with a low PG ratio. I want thick clouds and a slightly sweet taste that comes with the high VG flavours, rather than the strong kick from the high PG stuff...

 

[RezaD]

Thanks for the links! All signs point to the flavours i bought being the legit thing. Does anyone know the ratio of PG to VG in liqua flavours? I would MUCH prefer something with a low PG ratio. I want thick clouds and a slightly sweet taste that comes with the high VG flavours, rather than the strong kick from the high PG stuff...

Liqua is said to be like 70 or 80% PG. That is why I recommended the Zodiac juices.

 

[Luke5533]

Liqua is said to be like 70 or 80% PG. That is why I recommended the Zodiac juices.

Thanks so much for all your help! I will check out the other juices. Do u find having a real evod is much better than the fake ones? I'm wondering if paying all the extra money is worth it?

 

[RezaD]

Thanks so much for all your help! I will check out the other juices. Do u find having a real evod is much better than the fake ones? I'm wondering if paying all the extra money is worth it?

Yes and no. I have found that some clones are just as good. The most important aspect is the location of the air holes when using it on some non-Evod batteries. When the holes are at the highest point just below the base of the deck it works best. Otherwise the draw is too tight. You can overcome that by drilling the air holes slightly bigger. I have bought some genuine Evods where the holes were also slightly lower and would give me that too tight draw except when I used it on my SVD where for some reason the air flow was always working properly irrespective where the holes were located.

 

[Luke5533]

Ahh, seems i got a good fake then. Thanks for all ur advice and info

 

[Luke5533]

One last thing. Could i go down to spar tomorrow and buy VG, and dilute it with my high PG flavour? Would that work?

 

[RezaD]

It would work but it will dilute the flavour and drop the nicotine percentage as well. No harm in trying

 

[Luke5533]

Would normal glycerin work?

 

[Derick]

Would normal glycerin work?

As long as you get the BP (British Pharmaceutical) grade then yep - just look for a BP on the bottle, that is exactly the stuff that is used

 

[Luke5533]

As long as you get the BP (British Pharmaceutical) grade then yep - just look for a BP on the bottle, that is exactly the stuff that is used

Are you sure? I don't want to die of lung cancer

 

[Derick]

Are you sure? I don't want to die of lung cancer

100% sure

 

[Luke5533]

100% sure

Thanks so much

 

[saiman]

Did you buy the liqua from the same shop? There are easy ways to tell fake from real with the bottle and packaging. My favourite Liquas are Turkish Tobacco and American Blend because they are nice all day vapes and the taste is not too overpowering

 

[saiman]

BTW so far I have never seen original Liqua at a Chinese or Pakistani shop.

 

[Tom]

My advice. .... move on asap from Liqua. As was said.... read thru the reviews of local juice

 

[Luke5533]

Yes, the liqua i have IS real. I know a fake when i see one. I even asked the guy in the store. He said the small ones (R25) are fake, which is kinda obvious looking at them. The ones for R50 are real. (they also feel and look real, they also don't have any of the tell-tail signs that fake ones do. I also bought a vanilla flavour from spar (not liqua) it is simply branded Vape Vanilla.

 

[Luke5533]

By the way, can i buy VG and mix it with my flavour? I bought some, but it doesn't say vegetable anywhere on it, it's just BP glycerin. Can i use this to mix with my flavours?

 

[Derick]

By the way, can i buy VG and mix it with my flavour? I bought some, but it doesn't say vegetable anywhere on it, it's just BP glycerin. Can i use this to mix with my flavours?

Yes you can

The 'vegetable' part is something that became important with vaping and normally chemist customers don't care either way, so some chemists actually do have vegetable glycerin, they just don't label it that way.

The chemical composition of Glycerin and Vegetable Glycerin is exactly the same - i.e. once you have the final product there is no way to tell if it is VG or just plain Glycerin. The distinction comes in the preparation - VG is prepared using only plant matter, other Glycerin might be a by-product of some other process, and various ingredients might have been used to produce the end result.

The distinction between the two is only important if you are a Vegeterian/vegan

EDIT: Pharmacists and Chemical laboratories sometimes refer to it as 'Vegetable Grade Glycerin/Glycerol'

 

[Derick]

Here is some more info on VG if you feel like reading
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-vegetable-glycerin.htm

 

[Luke5533]

Yes you can

The 'vegetable' part is something that became important with vaping and normally chemist customers don't care either way, so some chemists actually do have vegetable glycerin, they just don't label it that way.

The chemical composition of Glycerin and Vegetable Glycerin is exactly the same - i.e. once you have the final product there is no way to tell if it is VG or just plain Glycerin. The distinction comes in the preparation - VG is prepared using only plant matter, other Glycerin might be a by-product of some other process, and various ingredients might have been used to produce the end result.

The distinction between the two is only important if you are a Vegeterian/vegan

EDIT: Pharmacists and Chemical laboratories sometimes refer to it as 'Vegetable Grade Glycerin/Glycerol'

Thanks so much