ESG Skyline RTA

So.....Skyline @ 175euros, is that truly worth that amount?

Most certainly YES. Any why u may ask?

The Build quality alone is 1 good reason if not the main reason. Everything about this RTA screams (LOUDLY TOO) QUALITY. When you unscrew the deck, its like butter. Refilling (my 2nd tank fill already) is easy and just as smooth. Threads on this RTA is world class for sure. I cannot praise the build quality enough.

To coil her up is soo easy, even a virgin could do it. My build is 26g A1 8 wrap 2.5mm comes in at 1.0ohm. I like my cool vapes. Wicking is straight forward. Flavour wise, can you get better, maybe in the future. Is it the best, Well from all what I have tried, Kayfun 3,4 & 5, Serpent Mini 22mm & 25mm, wotofo conqueror, Gemini RTA and many many many others, I would say xxx tastes the best in this. Will this RTA replace others, YESSSSSS. slowly but surely I will buy another and another to replace each and every RTA I own. For Me personally this is perfect as can be.

PS. In 2 refills not even a drop of liquid has come out. This I will give more time to see but I am sure I will have no issues with that.
 
So.....Skyline @ 175euros, is that truly worth that amount?

Most certainly YES. Any why u may ask?

The Build quality alone is 1 good reason if not the main reason. Everything about this RTA screams (LOUDLY TOO) QUALITY. When you unscrew the deck, its like butter. Refilling (my 2nd tank fill already) is easy and just as smooth. Threads on this RTA is world class for sure. I cannot praise the build quality enough.

To coil her up is soo easy, even a virgin could do it. My build is 26g A1 8 wrap 2.5mm comes in at 1.0ohm. I like my cool vapes. Wicking is straight forward. Flavour wise, can you get better, maybe in the future. Is it the best, Well from all what I have tried, Kayfun 3,4 & 5, Serpent Mini 22mm & 25mm, wotofo conqueror, Gemini RTA and many many many others, I would say xxx tastes the best in this. Will this RTA replace others, YESSSSSS. slowly but surely I will buy another and another to replace each and every RTA I own. For Me personally this is perfect as can be.

PS. In 2 refills not even a drop of liquid has come out. This I will give more time to see but I am sure I will have no issues with that.

100% @Ash! My experience was the same... so happy it met your expectations! :b1::b1::b1:
 
100% @Ash! My experience was the same... so happy it met your expectations! :b1::b1::b1:

You have no idea @Rob Fisher how ecstatic I am about this RTA. Simple, beautiful and flavourful. What more do you want. The only thing is none of my 14 hands tips looks good on this. I need to get a custom 1 made, but truly I don't even care about that.

This has exceeded my expectations. Its what I have been searching for throughout my vaping life
 
You have no idea @Rob Fisher how ecstatic I am about this RTA. Simple, beautiful and flavourful. What more do you want. The only thing is none of my 14 hands tips looks good on this. I need to get a custom 1 made, but truly I don't even care about that.

This has exceeded my expectations. Its what I have been searching for throughout my vaping life

Snap! I had the same issue with drip tips and @hands is already working on some new ones for me! :D

And I have to agree wholeheartedly with your statement "It's what I have been searching for throughout my vaping life"! :b1:
 
Congrats on the Skyline @Ash
I like how you just went for it!
Happy to hear you are so happy.

Other than the quality of it - how is the vape itself compared to something else you know well? Airflow, flavour density, vape action, noise?

I know it's early days but perhaps you can shed some light on those topics in a while, once you've had a chance to vape it for a while - and also try out a few juices...
 
Congrats on the Skyline @Ash
I like how you just went for it!
Happy to hear you are so happy.

Other than the quality of it - how is the vape itself compared to something else you know well? Airflow, flavour density, vape action, noise?

I know it's early days but perhaps you can shed some light on those topics in a while, once you've had a chance to vape it for a while - and also try out a few juices...

Agree...

I wanna hear how it performs with dessert and bakery juices.
 
Congrats on the Skyline @Ash
I like how you just went for it!
Happy to hear you are so happy.

Other than the quality of it - how is the vape itself compared to something else you know well? Airflow, flavour density, vape action, noise?

I know it's early days but perhaps you can shed some light on those topics in a while, once you've had a chance to vape it for a while - and also try out a few juices...

Thanks, I always wanted a quality RTA, based on @Rob Fisher review as well as Todds, it seemed like what I wanted. i always wanted an authentic Kayfun but based on reviews it was always mixed so i held off till they perfected it and yet it seems they did not. Don't get me wrong flavour is good on the kayfun 5 but i always had a drop 0r 2 of liquid come out and for me that's not perfect.

Airflow, definitely better than Kayfun as i have Direct Lung Deck. You get much more in a serpent mini but i am not after clouds anyways.

Flavour density is where this shines. XXX is just a whole lot crisper. it brings out the hidden flavours easily.

Noise, I would base it on the kayfun clone that i have, about the same if not skyline is tad softer.

But with time i can give you a better story
 
Thanks, I always wanted a quality RTA, based on @Rob Fisher review as well as Todds, it seemed like what I wanted. i always wanted an authentic Kayfun but based on reviews it was always mixed so i held off till they perfected it and yet it seems they did not. Don't get me wrong flavour is good on the kayfun 5 but i always had a drop 0r 2 of liquid come out and for me that's not perfect.

Airflow, definitely better than Kayfun as i have Direct Lung Deck. You get much more in a serpent mini but i am not after clouds anyways.

Flavour density is where this shines. XXX is just a whole lot crisper. it brings out the hidden flavours easily.

Noise, I would base it on the kayfun clone that i have, about the same if not skyline is tad softer.

But with time i can give you a better story
Just a note.An Authentic Kayfun 5 doesn't leak.
 
Just a note.An Authentic Kayfun 5 doesn't leak.

Ok, that's what was worrying me, cos the clone did, and always under the rta would be wet. That is why we cant review clones, it will never be like the authentic.
 
Just a note.An Authentic Kayfun 5 doesn't leak.
Pity we can't compare Authentic VS Authentic here.I would really like to know how it compares to an Authentic Kayfun 5 on Flavor.

I would just have to dig deep and go further down the rabbit hole.
 
Pity we can't compare Authentic VS Authentic here.I would really like to know how it compares to an Authentic Kayfun 5 on Flavor.

I would just have to dig deep and go further down the rabbit hole.

Well if you are ever in Durban, give me a shout and your more than welcome to build and try out the skyline the way you want.
 
Ok, that's what was worrying me, cos the clone did, and always under the rta would be wet.

One thing I have learnt is that clones are generally horseshit compared to originals... that isn't always the case but by in large it is the case. I got about 5 or 6 clones recently just to satisfy my curiosity and I can tell you that most of them are going into the gorge because they are just crap and do a real injustice to the originals. I still think cloning is tantamount to stealing but that's an old discussion and not one I'm going to respond to and certainly not in this thread.
 
I just hope they don't clone the Skyline cos they will ruin it for them. Especially the build quality
 
One thing I have learnt is that clones are generally horseshit compared to originals... that isn't always the case but by in large it is the case. I got about 5 or 6 clones recently just to satisfy my curiosity and I can tell you that most of them are going into the gorge because they are just crap and do a real injustice to the originals. I still think cloning is tantamount to stealing but that's an old discussion and not one I'm going to respond to and certainly not in this thread.
Yip.By cloning they just get it to look the same.But tolerances and internals are *****

And then it gives a shit name to the Authentics.

People buy the clones to see if it is worth it,then they get such a shit experience that they don't even try the Authentic.
 
I just hope they don't clone the Skyline cos they will ruin it for them. Especially the build quality

The internals of the Skyline are going to be a nightmare for a cloner to get right... even with the sophisticated CNC machines at ESG it takes them around 30 minutes to do a deck... not conducive for cloners. :p
 
The internals of the Skyline are going to be a nightmare for a cloner to get right... even with the sophisticated CNC machines at ESG it takes them around 30 minutes to do a deck... not conducive for cloners. :p
The Chinese even clone themselves.

They will get it to look the same but won't work the same.Same as all the other stuff.
 
Pity we can't compare Authentic VS Authentic here.I would really like to know how it compares to an Authentic Kayfun 5 on Flavor.

I would just have to dig deep and go further down the rabbit hole.
Don't think too hard ... one tends to end up procrastinating.
 
I think that is why it is so hard to get one of these tanks.They first do a check on you to see if that tank is going to China.
 
Thanks, I always wanted a quality RTA, based on @Rob Fisher review as well as Todds, it seemed like what I wanted. i always wanted an authentic Kayfun but based on reviews it was always mixed so i held off till they perfected it and yet it seems they did not. Don't get me wrong flavour is good on the kayfun 5 but i always had a drop 0r 2 of liquid come out and for me that's not perfect.

Airflow, definitely better than Kayfun as i have Direct Lung Deck. You get much more in a serpent mini but i am not after clouds anyways.

Flavour density is where this shines. XXX is just a whole lot crisper. it brings out the hidden flavours easily.

Noise, I would base it on the kayfun clone that i have, about the same if not skyline is tad softer.

But with time i can give you a better story

Thanks @Ash - that is great to read
I like crisp and I like my restricted lung hits with thinner wire and lower power
So the more I read about this Skyline the more I think it is something I will like.

As for it not leaking and the quality - well that is something I would like too :D

The question for me is just what deck to get?

I think the MTL deck is probably not going to be the one for me. My RM2 is my champion for tobaccoes in that regard and I will eat my Reo if the Skyline beats it in that department.

The new still to be released "more airflow" direct lung hit deck is probably not the one for me either

I think the deck I need is the one Rob and you are vaping on now...
(the restricted lung hit deck ;-) )
For fruity menthols.
I have to say though it will take one helluva tank to beat the restricted lung hit vape I am getting on the OL16 right now
 
My whole dilema with deciding yay or nay is...
Ive always gotten better flavour from my dripper (RDA)...
Can anyone give a comparison in terms of flavour to a good dripper?
I think a dripper will always be ontop in terms of flavour...?

So my Dilema is buy a skyline and say its the best rta (but not the best flavour you will ever get) or buy a really nice authentic rda like the oddis which will probably give you the best flavour money can get and stick it on a squonker.

So confused :confused:
 
My whole dilema with deciding yay or nay is...
Ive always gotten better flavour from my dripper (RDA)...
Can anyone give a comparison in terms of flavour to a good dripper?
I think a dripper will always be ontop in terms of flavour...?

So my Dilema is buy a skyline and say its the best rta (but not the best flavour you will ever get) or buy a really nice authentic rda like the oddis which will probably give you the best flavour money can get and stick it on a squonker.

So confused :confused:

I am sorry that I have not had a lot of time to reply to some of the questions, but I thought I would try and answer this one quickly as it is a very interesting question.

So to answer your question, a RTA will never perform the same as an RDA, why you may ask? This is simply because a) my mouth is closer to the coil b) I struggle to dissipate heat as efficiently as an RDA and c) I am continuously exposing my juice to heat fluctuations in my tank during vaping which is impacting the molecular composition of my juice.

The right question to ask is if the convenience of an RTA outshines that of what I am gaining from an RDA? If you are chasing flavor, flavor, flavor then an RDA is the way to go with all the CONs that come with an RDA. However how far is the like of a Skyline from that of an Oddis O-Atty. I would say around 15-20%. How far is it from the Hadaly and NarDA? I would say about 20-25%.

What we also need to question is that an RDA will always have better airflow to that of an RTA because the air is always more direct. The skyline with its design is one of the shortest airflow paths EVER designed and that is also what makes it shine.

Sure you can go the SQ root, however this comes with its own compromise that heated juice is mixing with fresh juice and I am sort of blending juices. You might think that, that is minimal but HE squonkers have tiny bottles for this very reason.

Hope that helps!
 
I am sorry that I have not had a lot of time to reply to some of the questions, but I thought I would try and answer this one quickly as it is a very interesting question.

So to answer your question, a RTA will never perform the same as an RDA, why you may ask? This is simply because a) my mouth is closer to the coil b) I struggle to dissipate heat as efficiently as an RDA and c) I am continuously exposing my juice to heat fluctuations in my tank during vaping which is impacting the molecular composition of my juice.

The right question to ask is if the convenience of an RTA outshines that of what I am gaining from an RDA? If you are chasing flavor, flavor, flavor then an RDA is the way to go with all the CONs that come with an RDA. However how far is the like of a Skyline from that of an Oddis O-Atty. I would say around 15-20%. How far is it from the Hadaly and NarDA? I would say about 20-25%.

What we also need to question is that an RDA will always have better airflow to that of an RTA because the air is always more direct. The skyline with its design is one of the shortest airflow paths EVER designed and that is also what makes it shine.

Sure you can go the SQ root, however this comes with its own compromise that heated juice is mixing with fresh juice and I am sort of blending juices. You might think that, that is minimal but HE squonkers have tiny bottles for this very reason.

Hope that helps!

Thanks for that bud it sure does help.
Can you by any chance also give us a comparison of the skyline vs a kayfun v5?
 
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