Had a chance to rewick the Expro V4 today
Also did a good clean and rinse with sunlight in warm water. And let it sit. Didn’t do that when I got it, I just rinsed it.
Thinned the CB2 wicks and made them a bit shorter. Hard to see if I’m touching the deck but I’d say I’m either just touching or slightly short. Anyway it’s less than I did before.
It’s a bit better. A bit more flavour. But am sorry to report that it’s not in the class of my Rose MTL
It feels a bit ‘distant’ - maybe that’s because of the top airflow. Flavour is good but not Wow. It’s a bit muted. For this juice which I know very well. (Havana Nightz - tobacco)
The vape doesn’t ‘jump out’ at me. It’s not bold enough. Throat hit is less. Volume less.
If the Rose MTL gets me say 9.5/10 for how I like my vape then this gets me about 7 or so. It’s still noticeably off the level of the Rose.
Will see how it goes as the wick settles. Have only vaped 1 tankful so far.
Tank size is too small at 2ml. Needs a bigger capacity.
What I do like about it is that it’s smooth and it doesn’t leak. Not a drop. Easy to fill.
Will continue because I want to like this tank. Might change the coil next. Still have the 2.5ID VV fused Clapton in at about 1ohm. Vaping at about 19-20Watts.
Also did a good clean and rinse with sunlight in warm water. And let it sit. Didn’t do that when I got it, I just rinsed it.
Thinned the CB2 wicks and made them a bit shorter. Hard to see if I’m touching the deck but I’d say I’m either just touching or slightly short. Anyway it’s less than I did before.
It’s a bit better. A bit more flavour. But am sorry to report that it’s not in the class of my Rose MTL
It feels a bit ‘distant’ - maybe that’s because of the top airflow. Flavour is good but not Wow. It’s a bit muted. For this juice which I know very well. (Havana Nightz - tobacco)
The vape doesn’t ‘jump out’ at me. It’s not bold enough. Throat hit is less. Volume less.
If the Rose MTL gets me say 9.5/10 for how I like my vape then this gets me about 7 or so. It’s still noticeably off the level of the Rose.
Will see how it goes as the wick settles. Have only vaped 1 tankful so far.
Tank size is too small at 2ml. Needs a bigger capacity.
What I do like about it is that it’s smooth and it doesn’t leak. Not a drop. Easy to fill.
Will continue because I want to like this tank. Might change the coil next. Still have the 2.5ID VV fused Clapton in at about 1ohm. Vaping at about 19-20Watts.
Stellar job on the wicking @Silver! If you say The Rose is better than this then I seriously need to get one, because for me the flavour I get on the Expro is better than any MTL Atty I've ever owned, including MTL RDA's. I'm still on the SS plain round wire build. Have not felt the need to change the build at all. Only rewicked.Had a chance to rewick the Expro V4 today
Also did a good clean and rinse with sunlight in warm water. And let it sit. Didn’t do that when I got it, I just rinsed it.
Thinned the CB2 wicks and made them a bit shorter. Hard to see if I’m touching the deck but I’d say I’m either just touching or slightly short. Anyway it’s less than I did before.
It’s a bit better. A bit more flavour. But am sorry to report that it’s not in the class of my Rose MTL
It feels a bit ‘distant’ - maybe that’s because of the top airflow. Flavour is good but not Wow. It’s a bit muted. For this juice which I know very well. (Havana Nightz - tobacco)
The vape doesn’t ‘jump out’ at me. It’s not bold enough. Throat hit is less. Volume less.
If the Rose MTL gets me say 9.5/10 for how I like my vape then this gets me about 7 or so. It’s still noticeably off the level of the Rose.
Will see how it goes as the wick settles. Have only vaped 1 tankful so far.
Tank size is too small at 2ml. Needs a bigger capacity.
What I do like about it is that it’s smooth and it doesn’t leak. Not a drop. Easy to fill.
Will continue because I want to like this tank. Might change the coil next. Still have the 2.5ID VV fused Clapton in at about 1ohm. Vaping at about 19-20Watts.
Ay i Agree with you Mr @Silver... It's just not what i was expecting, tried 11 different builds with different wicking and different juices. Menthols, fruits, tobaccos and desserts. It does not provide flavour close to the likes of my dotshell or my dvarw mtl and I also suspect it is the case because of the top airflow.Had a chance to rewick the Expro V4 today
Also did a good clean and rinse with sunlight in warm water. And let it sit. Didn’t do that when I got it, I just rinsed it.
Thinned the CB2 wicks and made them a bit shorter. Hard to see if I’m touching the deck but I’d say I’m either just touching or slightly short. Anyway it’s less than I did before.
It’s a bit better. A bit more flavour. But am sorry to report that it’s not in the class of my Rose MTL
It feels a bit ‘distant’ - maybe that’s because of the top airflow. Flavour is good but not Wow. It’s a bit muted. For this juice which I know very well. (Havana Nightz - tobacco)
The vape doesn’t ‘jump out’ at me. It’s not bold enough. Throat hit is less. Volume less.
If the Rose MTL gets me say 9.5/10 for how I like my vape then this gets me about 7 or so. It’s still noticeably off the level of the Rose.
Will see how it goes as the wick settles. Have only vaped 1 tankful so far.
Tank size is too small at 2ml. Needs a bigger capacity.
What I do like about it is that it’s smooth and it doesn’t leak. Not a drop. Easy to fill.
Will continue because I want to like this tank. Might change the coil next. Still have the 2.5ID VV fused Clapton in at about 1ohm. Vaping at about 19-20Watts.
ya @Dela Rey Steyn , look maybe I’m being a tad too critical because I was hoping for more
It’s good, but I find the overall vaping experience not as satisfying as I would like
the Rose was a surprise for me. @BumbleBee recommended it after I had tried a few MTL tanks back in the day and it shone from the beginning. And still going strong. Love that tank to bits. Also it’s 3ml. Occasionally you get a bit of moisture out the air holes, like once every few tanks but it’s not droplets, just a quick wipe and it’s clean. More than a fair trade for me given the flavour. That Rose punches closer too my Reo/RM2 which is still the MTL tobacco king for me.
I think another thing is that the lips are closer to the coil in the Rose than in the Expro. That distance and maybe the top airflow is what’s muting things a bit for me. At least that’s my theory for now.
by the way, what juices are you vaping in the Expro? Taviro?
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I think my next step is going to be to try another coil
Probably going to go for a normal roundwire 28 or 27g Kanthal and give that a go
But will do that after I’ve lived with this new wick for a bit
Probably going to go for a normal roundwire 28 or 27g Kanthal and give that a go
But will do that after I’ve lived with this new wick for a bit
Current rotation in the Expro is:
Stuyvesant from VG Masters 12mg
Good Boy from Wiener Vape 12mg
Tobacco #1 from Twisp 18mg
All of them taste phenomenal in the Expro.
My Nic Salts Taviro should be coming with my next order from @Rooigevaar. I can't wait to try it.
@Silver I think you should give the plain round wire a go.
Opened mine up this morning to do a rewick. My coil looked a little dull (high nic tobacco juices tends to do that in my experience) and I said to myself: "Self, (I knew it was me because I recognized my voice and I am wearing my usual underwear) let's try a fancier coil again."
I proceeded to do a 7wrap VV Superfine MTL Ni80 2.5mm coil, coming out at 0.83ohm. Wick it as per usual and away I went. Wicking is on point, get a bubble or 2 after every pull, vaping at 18w.
But the flavour is better for me on the plain round wire build. Going to finish this tank and then put a plain coil back in.
Opened mine up this morning to do a rewick. My coil looked a little dull (high nic tobacco juices tends to do that in my experience) and I said to myself: "Self, (I knew it was me because I recognized my voice and I am wearing my usual underwear) let's try a fancier coil again."
I proceeded to do a 7wrap VV Superfine MTL Ni80 2.5mm coil, coming out at 0.83ohm. Wick it as per usual and away I went. Wicking is on point, get a bubble or 2 after every pull, vaping at 18w.
But the flavour is better for me on the plain round wire build. Going to finish this tank and then put a plain coil back in.
I have those same conversations boet!
Does anybody else have any issues with condensation in the drip tip?
Not me
I did once or twice but my wicking was the cause...rewicked slightly thicker and it was sorted.
A friend of mine just got his and he has issues with it but I think that its wick'd to thinNot me
Thanks @Dela Rey Steyn
Will try a normal round wire coil next
@CashKat88 i do get a bit of condensation in the drip tip. Reminds me a bit of the Siren V2 days. I got that with the Siten.
It’s not bad at all but it’s there
Will try a normal round wire coil next
@CashKat88 i do get a bit of condensation in the drip tip. Reminds me a bit of the Siren V2 days. I got that with the Siten.
It’s not bad at all but it’s there
Condensation in the driptip forms if too much juice is getting to the wick or if you are vaping at too low a wattage (or if the wick is too thin as mentioned above).
Try closing off the juice flow control somewhat and/or upping the watts
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After 4 tanks and a good wash, bumped up the wattage and happy to report its good vape. Tobacco juices will probably shine in this tank but I have been using menthols and fruits.
2.5mm coil 0.6 ohm
FINE MTL
Happy so far
2.5mm coil 0.6 ohm
FINE MTL
Happy so far
@Rafique great to hear. what wire you using bud? and wattage...maybe it will help others out as well. Personally I enjoy fruits in them as pure red has never tasted better in mtl form.
So something interesting happened with my Expro tonight
I decided to fill with another juice
I used @Paulie ‘s leaf tobacco juice. I don’t vape it often but thought let me try it
so the vape is noticeably better, flavour is a bit richer and denser
my theory is that maybe the setup I have doesn’t like my Havana Nightz blend (about 50/50) and maybe the Clapton coil prefers the thicker 70/30 juice? Also I notice less popping on the coil than with my Havana juice.
interesting
I decided to fill with another juice
I used @Paulie ‘s leaf tobacco juice. I don’t vape it often but thought let me try it
so the vape is noticeably better, flavour is a bit richer and denser
my theory is that maybe the setup I have doesn’t like my Havana Nightz blend (about 50/50) and maybe the Clapton coil prefers the thicker 70/30 juice? Also I notice less popping on the coil than with my Havana juice.
interesting
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Its strange cos to me the 3mm is delivering so much better than 2.5mm but its preference I guess. On a side note @Timwis , the glaz mini should do well with a 3mm coil due to the 4 air holes on the deck. Going to try that next!
I think it depends how tight you set the airflow, the tighter the more fitting a 3.0ID coil is just wasted and poor coverage. With the Glaz Mini i personally just think a 3.0ID coil is a waste in such a tight MTL RTA which is why Steam Crave themselves recommend a 2.0ID!
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