Insomnia led me to rebuild the Nuppin just now. Lol
Will share some pics in the morning
I am quite chuffed with this build.
Will share some pics in the morning
I am quite chuffed with this build.
The Nuppin Thread
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Insomnia led me to rebuild the Nuppin just now. Lol
Will share some pics in the morning
Sorry to hear @Yiannaki
I hope the insomnia has nothing to do with the lung hitting...
No, just a busy mind
thankfully!As soon as i get a chance to upload then
a bit crazy at the office today.
No, just a busy mind
As soon as i get a chance to upload then
It's so annoying when work interferes with Vaping... thank the Pope I have retired!
So here are the fruits of my 1am coil build on the Nuppin.
I decided to go for spaced coils this time around.
I did a 26g 7 wrap paralell build and then removed the one coil, which in turn gave me even - ish spacing.
26 Dual Spaced Coil
7 wraps
2.5 mm ID
0.4Ω
Rayon Wick
I kept the negative leads a bit longer this time ( 9 - 10 mm) to place the coils higher, in hope that this would give more 'throat hit', as the last setup was very mild.
The vape off this setup is certainly warmer. The flavour is amazing (on par with my previous build. )
Vapor production is greater and best of all, the vape feels a little more intense which is what I was looking for (although I could still do with a bit more
)
Some pics....
Before firing and pinching them slightly:
After firing and pinching:
Wicked and juiced
I decided to go for spaced coils this time around.
I did a 26g 7 wrap paralell build and then removed the one coil, which in turn gave me even - ish spacing.
26 Dual Spaced Coil
7 wraps
2.5 mm ID
0.4Ω
Rayon Wick
I kept the negative leads a bit longer this time ( 9 - 10 mm) to place the coils higher, in hope that this would give more 'throat hit', as the last setup was very mild.
The vape off this setup is certainly warmer. The flavour is amazing (on par with my previous build. )
Vapor production is greater and best of all, the vape feels a little more intense which is what I was looking for (although I could still do with a bit more
)Some pics....
Before firing and pinching them slightly:
After firing and pinching:
Wicked and juiced
Another day - another new experience
Thanks to @Yiannaki 's advice I decided to just do a dual coil in the Nuppin
Came out at 0.36 ohms. Shees that's a bit low
Thanks to @Oupa I got myself some proper 26g wire.
6 wraps around 2mm ID came out at 0.7 ohms for the first coil. That must be 26g @Yiannaki! Now we talking.
Here's the coil setup
Ohm meter
Glowing evenly
All wicked up with rayon
My reference juice is VM Starwberry diluted down to about 9mg with menthol drops added.
To say I was excited at this point would be an understatement.
All ready to go. Air slots wide open. Ready for lung hit
My goodness. Intensity and clouds like I have never produced before. Flavour is there but not the focus. I am just trying to handle the heat and the intensity. 2 second drags is more than enough. The clouds are insane for me.
It's marvellous. It's fun it's exciting. I am a bit overwhelmed actually. My upper lip feels a bit burnt. Too hot for the drip tip. I can feel the Silver lurking....
Houston we have lift off and I have a massive new respect for this little humble looking atty. Next build I will aim for something a bit higher like 0.5.
Thanks to @Yiannaki 's advice I decided to just do a dual coil in the Nuppin
Came out at 0.36 ohms. Shees that's a bit low
Thanks to @Oupa I got myself some proper 26g wire.
6 wraps around 2mm ID came out at 0.7 ohms for the first coil. That must be 26g @Yiannaki! Now we talking.
Here's the coil setup
Ohm meter
Glowing evenly
All wicked up with rayon
My reference juice is VM Starwberry diluted down to about 9mg with menthol drops added.
To say I was excited at this point would be an understatement.
All ready to go. Air slots wide open. Ready for lung hit
My goodness. Intensity and clouds like I have never produced before. Flavour is there but not the focus. I am just trying to handle the heat and the intensity. 2 second drags is more than enough. The clouds are insane for me.
It's marvellous. It's fun it's exciting. I am a bit overwhelmed actually. My upper lip feels a bit burnt. Too hot for the drip tip. I can feel the Silver lurking....
Houston we have lift off and I have a massive new respect for this little humble looking atty. Next build I will aim for something a bit higher like 0.5.
PS - I thought the Atlantis was quite intense
After vaping this thing, the Atlantis feels quite mild - as if the battery is flat on the CF mod - lol
By the way, Airflow on the Nuppin with both slots wide open is more than the Atlantis wide open.
After vaping this thing, the Atlantis feels quite mild - as if the battery is flat on the CF mod - lol
By the way, Airflow on the Nuppin with both slots wide open is more than the Atlantis wide open.
Love your face Hi Ho @Silver! I know that feeling well!
I tried the Marquis today and made a dual coil at 0,4Ω and tried at 70 watts and then 40 watts... this intense sub-ohming isn't for me!
And trying to rig up the dual vertical coils and then wick was a bloody nightmare! What a stupid design!
I tried the Marquis today and made a dual coil at 0,4Ω and tried at 70 watts and then 40 watts... this intense sub-ohming isn't for me!
And trying to rig up the dual vertical coils and then wick was a bloody nightmare! What a stupid design!
Another day - another new experience
Thanks to @Yiannaki 's advice I decided to just do a dual coil in the Nuppin
Came out at 0.36 ohms. Shees that's a bit low
Thanks to @Oupa I got myself some proper 26g wire.
6 wraps around 2mm ID came out at 0.7 ohms for the first coil. That must be 26g @Yiannaki! Now we talking.
Here's the coil setup
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Ohm meter
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Glowing evenly
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All wicked up with rayon
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My reference juice is VM Starwberry diluted down to about 9mg with menthol drops added.
To say I was excited at this point would be an understatement.
All ready to go. Air slots wide open. Ready for lung hit
My goodness. Intensity and clouds like I have never produced before. Flavour is there but not the focus. I am just trying to handle the heat and the intensity. 2 second drags is more than enough. The clouds are insane for me.
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It's marvellous. It's fun it's exciting. I am a bit overwhelmed actually. My upper lip feels a bit burnt. Too hot for the drip tip. I can feel the Silver lurking....
Houston we have lift off and I have a massive new respect for this little humble looking atty. Next build I will aim for something a bit higher like 0.5.
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Great Job @Silver
So glad that you finally got around to it!
The build is looking good and I'm glad to hear the vape is blowing you away. Literally!
It's funny how a simple change of a build can change the experience entirely. Just a few days ago we were chatting about how mild the Nuppin experience was.
With regard to the heat and your lips feeling burnt, I would say you need a nice wide bore delrin drip tip. The Greeks around these parts recommend the 2puffs drip tip.
Great step by step pics and a super post.
Happy vaping on your new build and keep us posted on your findings with it.
Perhaps the Nuppin is the gateway to dual coils for u
Way to go!Another day - another new experience
Thanks to @Yiannaki 's advice I decided to just do a dual coil in the Nuppin
Came out at 0.36 ohms. Shees that's a bit low
Thanks to @Oupa I got myself some proper 26g wire.
6 wraps around 2mm ID came out at 0.7 ohms for the first coil. That must be 26g @Yiannaki! Now we talking.
Here's the coil setup
View attachment 20957
Ohm meter
View attachment 20958
Glowing evenly
View attachment 20959
All wicked up with rayon
View attachment 20960
My reference juice is VM Starwberry diluted down to about 9mg with menthol drops added.
To say I was excited at this point would be an understatement.
All ready to go. Air slots wide open. Ready for lung hit
My goodness. Intensity and clouds like I have never produced before. Flavour is there but not the focus. I am just trying to handle the heat and the intensity. 2 second drags is more than enough. The clouds are insane for me.
View attachment 20961
It's marvellous. It's fun it's exciting. I am a bit overwhelmed actually. My upper lip feels a bit burnt. Too hot for the drip tip. I can feel the Silver lurking....
Houston we have lift off and I have a massive new respect for this little humble looking atty. Next build I will aim for something a bit higher like 0.5.
View attachment 20962
Thanks fellow Nuppiners and friends!
Just some follow up comments after the initial shock.
My upper lip has a blister. I hope its gonna be a mild one and not a vicious one. Can you believe it. In over a year that has never happened to me. Some of the skin came off.
I need to consult my Greek friends to discuss a better way of kissing this setup. 2Puffs Delrin sounds good. I think I may need a double glazed Delrin vacuum drip tip!
I have figured out a better way to vape it without burning my lips. Short puffs and I change the way my lips sit on it. Lol, I think I burnt my lip trying to take that photo because I was looking at the camera and looking at the cloud and then my mouth was all over. It was actually so funny - and although it was a bit sore - I was in great spirit.
Back to the vape itself.
Despite the huge volume of vapour and overall excitement as one presses the button - it's a really smooth vape. The single coil was also smooth. This is smooth with a lot more volume if that is possible. To me, the Nuppin is just so smooth.
Throat hit is not intense - but this is lung hitting afterall. Not like my paracoil setup on my RM2 - mouth to lung which knocks me hard. But I need to experiment more and try different juices. On this Nuppin build I measured the negative leg lengths out at 9mm. My single coil was 8mm. Visually, the centre of the coils are slightly higher than the airslots. I could maybe go a bit higher - maybe next time.
I tried closing the air slots down to do mouth to lung. Not sure if the air holes which resulted were in line with the coils, but it wasn't great for me. Vapour production was significantly less. I still need to experiment more with that but for now, the Nuppin is a lung hitting device for me.
Flavour is good but I think rather because of the volume of vapour than the actual flavour reproduction. Also, as I have said before, the flavour on a lung hit is very different.
One thing that is very interesting. I dripped some of Nanas Cream 18mg directly into the atty now. (Over my dried out VM Strawberry wicks) And I could taste the banana. I could not taste the banana on my previous 1 ohm single coil. Must be the power bringing out the banana. Was very nice.
The density of the cloud is quite amazing for me. It's like a beefed up Atlantis. But the temperature is just too hot to take anything more than a short 1 or 1.5 second puff. I am actually looking forward to when the battery gets a bit weaker. Then maybe I can take fuller lung hits.
Allround it's been an extremely interesting experience. Something totally new for me. I wanted Reo Blue to become my dedicated lung hit machine for when I want a nice long lung hit. And for now, I am pleased. I need to tweak this Nuppin a bit more and I think with the right juice, it will be singing a great song for me.
Just some follow up comments after the initial shock.
My upper lip has a blister. I hope its gonna be a mild one and not a vicious one. Can you believe it. In over a year that has never happened to me. Some of the skin came off.
I need to consult my Greek friends to discuss a better way of kissing this setup. 2Puffs Delrin sounds good. I think I may need a double glazed Delrin vacuum drip tip!
I have figured out a better way to vape it without burning my lips. Short puffs and I change the way my lips sit on it. Lol, I think I burnt my lip trying to take that photo because I was looking at the camera and looking at the cloud and then my mouth was all over. It was actually so funny - and although it was a bit sore - I was in great spirit.
Back to the vape itself.
Despite the huge volume of vapour and overall excitement as one presses the button - it's a really smooth vape. The single coil was also smooth. This is smooth with a lot more volume if that is possible. To me, the Nuppin is just so smooth.
Throat hit is not intense - but this is lung hitting afterall. Not like my paracoil setup on my RM2 - mouth to lung which knocks me hard. But I need to experiment more and try different juices. On this Nuppin build I measured the negative leg lengths out at 9mm. My single coil was 8mm. Visually, the centre of the coils are slightly higher than the airslots. I could maybe go a bit higher - maybe next time.
I tried closing the air slots down to do mouth to lung. Not sure if the air holes which resulted were in line with the coils, but it wasn't great for me. Vapour production was significantly less. I still need to experiment more with that but for now, the Nuppin is a lung hitting device for me.
Flavour is good but I think rather because of the volume of vapour than the actual flavour reproduction. Also, as I have said before, the flavour on a lung hit is very different.
One thing that is very interesting. I dripped some of Nanas Cream 18mg directly into the atty now. (Over my dried out VM Strawberry wicks) And I could taste the banana. I could not taste the banana on my previous 1 ohm single coil. Must be the power bringing out the banana. Was very nice.
The density of the cloud is quite amazing for me. It's like a beefed up Atlantis. But the temperature is just too hot to take anything more than a short 1 or 1.5 second puff. I am actually looking forward to when the battery gets a bit weaker. Then maybe I can take fuller lung hits.
Allround it's been an extremely interesting experience. Something totally new for me. I wanted Reo Blue to become my dedicated lung hit machine for when I want a nice long lung hit. And for now, I am pleased. I need to tweak this Nuppin a bit more and I think with the right juice, it will be singing a great song for me.
Lol, thanks @Stephen
You know the funny thing with me and lung hitting is that i dont get that rough pleasurable throat hit but after a few toots I start to feel woosy. It's as if it knocks you without you knowing.
Thats why I like adding the menthol drops. On longer lung hits (which I cant do yet on this nuppin build because its too hot) it gives me a nice burn in the throat toward the end of the long draw. I have yet to put in one of my big tobacco juices. I want to try lung hitting Blackbird and see what happens on the throat hit front.
So long story short, it did make me woosy and burnt my lip, but I am determined to enjoy this great atty
Lol, love your Nuppin journey. All I can say is - nuppin brings out flavours than the Nuppin.
Great write up @Silver.
I always enjoy reading your views. You have such a way with words.
It always feels like I am standing right next to you as you share this experiences with us.
If I may be so bold, I would like to try build a coil for you at our next breakfast meet on your Nupin?
All I need to know is what will be the lowest g coil the unit can accept and does it allow for single coil setups?
(Im pretty sure it does allow for single coils. Just can't remember exactly)
Hi master @Zodd who is currently in Iraq with machine guns!
Thanks for the compliment!
And that is a very super gesture of yours. You may with pleasure build me a coil. Only thing is that the Nuppin works a bit differently to other atties - but its very easy. The height of the coil is controlled by the length of the negative leg, which is inserted vertically down into the negative terminal hole.
It can take a single coil. I had one on it before this dual setup. The air slots can be configured so that just one is open.
As for the lowest gauge wire, I am not sure. I have 26g in it at the moment. Maybe one of the other Nuppin users can confirm - I would imagine 24g is quite easy - maybe even thicker will be possible because if it is a single coil then the positive post will only have one piece of wire going through it and not two.
Ah ok. Cool.
If I recall correctly, you are more of a single coil lover than dual coils?
Seeing that your parallel coil setup is more suited to single coil setup than dual coils being in separate.
If thats the case, I have a single coil setup that I think you might enjoy quite a bit.
It will be in the lower ohm range (similar to what you have now)
The difference being that you will have a more pronounced flavour and the tape will be exceptionally cooler. (Which will save you from blistering lips. lol)
The plus side is that you can run it in Single coil opening on the Nupin for mouth to lung. If you want to blow clouds, You can use the dual opening to get big airflow for lung hits. You will lose a bit of flavour because of the single coil though, but you will still find it quite interesting.
Lol @Andre, i was trying to figure out what you meant by your post
I assume you mean the nuppin is a great flavour producer.
I am still getting there. I need to tweak some more and try with more juices. Cant wait to put bowdens in this vicious dual coil setup
What flavour differences are you observing with the dual versus the single ?
Crispness? Density?
As I said here - little bit more throat hit, a warmer vape and a whistle. Subsequently also that I need longer toots on the airier duals. In fact, am beginning to think I might prefer single coils on the Nuppin.
Nuppin Technical Specs
Specs for Nuppin' set screws and the tools to turn them, o-rings:
SCREW: SS set screw, cup point, hex/socket drive (18-8, A2, or 304). M2x0.4 and 2.5mm length (that's an M2 screw that's 2.5mm long and has a 0.4mm thread pitch)
That socket/hex is 0.9mm
So hex keys/tools would be 0.9mm or 0.035"
One source:
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr
18-8 Stainless Steel Cup Point Set Screw
M2 Size, 2.5mm Long, 0.40mm Pitch
O-RINGS: 1mm x 10mm
One source:
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.p...oducts_id=1770
↑these are Buna N 70 (a little less flexible, but holds up to tank cracking liquids better . . . I should think . . . I'm no doctor). This is what I use as default for BF mod parts.
↓there's all kinds to choose from tho (the Buna N 50 would be a little more elastic, and a little less tough in, say, a jet fuel spill . ..
).
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.p...ndex&cPath=368
Last edited by pdib; 10-28-2014 at 05:39 AM.
Specs for Nuppin' set screws and the tools to turn them, o-rings:
SCREW: SS set screw, cup point, hex/socket drive (18-8, A2, or 304). M2x0.4 and 2.5mm length (that's an M2 screw that's 2.5mm long and has a 0.4mm thread pitch)
That socket/hex is 0.9mm
So hex keys/tools would be 0.9mm or 0.035"
One source:
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr
18-8 Stainless Steel Cup Point Set Screw
M2 Size, 2.5mm Long, 0.40mm Pitch
O-RINGS: 1mm x 10mm
One source:
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.p...oducts_id=1770
↑these are Buna N 70 (a little less flexible, but holds up to tank cracking liquids better . . . I should think . . . I'm no doctor). This is what I use as default for BF mod parts.
↓there's all kinds to choose from tho (the Buna N 50 would be a little more elastic, and a little less tough in, say, a jet fuel spill . ..
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.p...ndex&cPath=368
Last edited by pdib; 10-28-2014 at 05:39 AM.
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Thanks @Alex. Have read on the pdib thread that some prefer the 1mm x 11mm o-rings. The fit is a little bit tighter, but it is better at preventing joose to filter down between the walls.Nuppin Technical Specs
Specs for Nuppin' set screws and the tools to turn them, o-rings:
SCREW: SS set screw, cup point, hex/socket drive (18-8, A2, or 304). M2x0.4 and 2.5mm length (that's an M2 screw that's 2.5mm long and has a 0.4mm thread pitch)
That socket/hex is 0.9mm
So hex keys/tools would be 0.9mm or 0.035"
http://www.mcmaster.com/#92015a207/=w5by8r
18-8 Stainless Steel Cup Point Set Screw
M2 Size, 2.5mm Long, 0.40mm Pitch
O-RINGS: 1mm x 10mm
One source:
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.p...oducts_id=1770
↑these are Buna N 70 (a little less flexible, but holds up to tank cracking liquids better . . . I should think . . . I'm no doctor). This is what I use as default for BF mod parts.
↓there's all kinds to choose from tho (the Buna N 50 would be a little more elastic, and a little less tough in, say, a jet fuel spill . ..).
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.p...ndex&cPath=368
Last edited by pdib; 10-28-2014 at 05:39 AM.
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