Thanks Markus! Will try the double ekowool trick as well today!
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Thanks Markus! Will try the double ekowool trick as well today!
I got mine doubled over. Less squonking and I need fewer wraps. Just a note to @Rob Fisher even after touching the crap out of mine it still took 3-4ml of juice through it before it "settled". Its been going since sunday evening, so far so good.
So I decided to get a bit adventurous and give the reotomic a recoil for the kings crown claim your throne and Damn this thing really claims it's thrown. Parallel 0.5 flat ribbon with 26g 6wraps 2.4mm Id 0.5ohms. Flavor and vapor production is top notch
I'm going to keep going on this journey of wick discovery... but right now the ekowool takes the sharp crisp edge off the Menthol Ice and a lung hit is a lot easier to do... not a bad or good thing... just different... just like the difference of a single coil with rayon in a Cyclone vs a Cyclops. The Cyclops is muted and similar to the ekowool in a Cyclone. And I guess this is where the lower ohm coils come into play,,,
Here is one I made today.
I don't like cotton of any sort,still testing rayon,don't like silica,don't get good results with ribbon.
2mm torched ekowool,28 gauge pre straightened vapowire,push a big paper clip through the middle and wrap.Normally do 5 wraps just felt like a change,0.96 ohm.Pretty eh?
And I can't operate cameras either
I don't like cotton of any sort,still testing rayon,don't like silica,don't get good results with ribbon.
2mm torched ekowool,28 gauge pre straightened vapowire,push a big paper clip through the middle and wrap.Normally do 5 wraps just felt like a change,0.96 ohm.Pretty eh?
And I can't operate cameras either
Looking good. I also prefer the round wire to ribbon.Here is one I made today.
I don't like cotton of any sort,still testing rayon,don't like silica,don't get good results with ribbon.
2mm torched ekowool,28 gauge pre straightened vapowire,push a big paper clip through the middle and wrap.Normally do 5 wraps just felt like a change,0.96 ohm.Pretty eh?
And I can't operate cameras either
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So had to try my own little experiment. Pulled the Rayon coil whilst the Frenilla taste was still fresh in my memory. Quickly did a 2.5 mm hollow Ekowool ugly coil with 27g Kanthal, 5 wraps on a 1.5 mm mandrel through the middle. Torched the Ekowool on the mandrel. Came out at 0.77 ohms. The Rayon coil was 0.78. Tasted the Frenilla - for me the taste is sharper and more nuanced on the Ekowool. And less sweet than on the Rayon. The throat hit on the Rayon is quite a bit better for me.
This exercise is getting interesting... I "stem saam" with the less sweet part but I find the rayon a much sharper or crisper vape than muted as I experience it on ekowool. But I think I really have to go sub ohm and see how I find that. There is no doubt that throat hit is WAY harder with rayon... but throat hit for me is not as important as pure taste and flavour.
Direct lung hit with a Cyclone and Rayon is close to impossible...
Direct Lung hit with a Cyclops or Cyclone with Ekowool is a piece of cake!
Bear in mind at all my tests so far have been on coils above 1,1 Ohm.
From my experiences of using different wicking materials, the juice, and possibly the PG/VG ratio's can make a huge difference.
For example, i build a coil, 5 wrap, 28G Kanthal, 2mm id, with Rayon, use 'Juice A', and not a fan. But 'Juice B' tastes great with the same setup.
Then i would use the same coil, and use Ecowool instead, then all of a sudden 'Juice A' tastes great, and 'Juice B' not so great.
Just something i've picked up trying to find "The perfect Reo build"
For example, i build a coil, 5 wrap, 28G Kanthal, 2mm id, with Rayon, use 'Juice A', and not a fan. But 'Juice B' tastes great with the same setup.
Then i would use the same coil, and use Ecowool instead, then all of a sudden 'Juice A' tastes great, and 'Juice B' not so great.
Just something i've picked up trying to find "The perfect Reo build"
OK looking at @Andre's small piece of ekowool and listening to the advice I did 4 wraps on a really small piece of ekowool and the resistance came out at ,8 Ohms which is probably the lowest I'm really been for more than a few toots ever and all of a sardine ekowool may just feature!
I'm not the most patient type and after this morning I was close to throwing the ekowool into the gorge because I just didn't get it... the secret is less is more and low resistance appears to make a HUGE difference!
Also using wire cutters (good ones) to cut the torched wick as opposed to scissors also helped me big time! Thanks Markus!
Thanks for all the help and advice guys!
I'm not the most patient type and after this morning I was close to throwing the ekowool into the gorge because I just didn't get it... the secret is less is more and low resistance appears to make a HUGE difference!
Also using wire cutters (good ones) to cut the torched wick as opposed to scissors also helped me big time! Thanks Markus!
Thanks for all the help and advice guys!
OK looking at @Andre's small piece of ekowool and listening to the advice I did 4 wraps on a really small piece of ekowool and the resistance came out at ,8 Ohms which is probably the lowest I'm really been for more than a few toots ever and all of a sardine ekowool may just feature!
I'm not the most patient type and after this morning I was close to throwing the ekowool into the gorge because I just didn't get it... the secret is less is more and low resistance appears to make a HUGE difference!
Also using wire cutters (good ones) to cut the torched wick as opposed to scissors also helped me big time! Thanks Markus!
Thanks for all the help and advice guys!
Technical Patience Award
Way to go. Mine above I wrapped too tightly (as @vaalboy cautioned), so it is falling apart. Will have to redo. Maybe try the ribbon again. Do you torch the ribbon beforehand @johan?OK looking at @Andre's small piece of ekowool and listening to the advice I did 4 wraps on a really small piece of ekowool and the resistance came out at ,8 Ohms which is probably the lowest I'm really been for more than a few toots ever and all of a sardine ekowool may just feature!
I'm not the most patient type and after this morning I was close to throwing the ekowool into the gorge because I just didn't get it... the secret is less is more and low resistance appears to make a HUGE difference!
Also using wire cutters (good ones) to cut the torched wick as opposed to scissors also helped me big time! Thanks Markus!
Thanks for all the help and advice guys!
Roger that! I got ribbon! Will try that as well...
Yes I do, otherwise you have no alternative than to over-tightly wrap
Here we go. Vapowire 0.9 x 0.1 (27G) ribbon, 4 wraps around 2.5mm hollow Ekowool around a 1.2mm mandrel. Torched both the ribbon and the ekowool well beforehand. Came out to 0.74 ohms. And the ribbon does not cut into the ekowool as the round wire tends to do. Also somewhat easier to wrap for me. The tail wraps tend to go a bit loose, so tried to hold the tail end tight with the one hand whilst tightening the post screw. Vape is good to go.
Ok I put my experimentation on hold. I can't go another day without my happyplace build. Maybe I need another reo for experiments 
Here it is 5/6 wrap twisted 30g usually comes out to 0.6-0.7 ohms. I didn't measure it just vapes nicely.
Here it is 5/6 wrap twisted 30g usually comes out to 0.6-0.7 ohms. I didn't measure it just vapes nicely.
Ok I put my experimentation on hold. I can't go another day without my happyplace build. Maybe I need another reo for experimentsYes you do!
Hi @Rob Fisher
Congrats on the patience with the coil builds
I absolutely love it the way you take us all along for the journey with great photos
And watching your and everyone else's comments is hugely informative
Even though some may not comment, I bet plenty are reading these posts with much interest and are learning from it.
It has helped me already. Thanks @Andre, @vaalboy, @johan and @Gazzacpt for all your posts
I also think @Zodiac is right that it is juice dependent. I am starting to believe this too with my testing. So we may start having to include what juice we are vaping when we describe the differences in the vape...
Thanks again. This is a great flow of posts
Congrats on the patience with the coil builds
I absolutely love it the way you take us all along for the journey with great photos
And watching your and everyone else's comments is hugely informative
Even though some may not comment, I bet plenty are reading these posts with much interest and are learning from it.
It has helped me already. Thanks @Andre, @vaalboy, @johan and @Gazzacpt for all your posts
I also think @Zodiac is right that it is juice dependent. I am starting to believe this too with my testing. So we may start having to include what juice we are vaping when we describe the differences in the vape...
Thanks again. This is a great flow of posts
Similar conclusion for me on the ohm's @Rob Fisher,I find anything over 1.0 ohm not so good.I tried doubling up 2mm ekowool and wrapping with ribbon but I just didn't like the result as much.OK looking at @Andre's small piece of ekowool and listening to the advice I did 4 wraps on a really small piece of ekowool and the resistance came out at ,8 Ohms which is probably the lowest I'm really been for more than a few toots ever and all of a sardine ekowool may just feature!
I'm not the most patient type and after this morning I was close to throwing the ekowool into the gorge because I just didn't get it... the secret is less is more and low resistance appears to make a HUGE difference!
Also using wire cutters (good ones) to cut the torched wick as opposed to scissors also helped me big time! Thanks Markus!
Thanks for all the help and advice guys!
I've used ekowool almost exclusively for a few months now and I find the taste/flavour and performance get better after a few hours of vaping on a fresh build,then a coil can last for 4-6 weeks.
How do you clean the coil and wick? And how frequently?
@Andre,I take off the atty and put it in a small bowl of boiling water for a minute or two,then hold it with some kitchen tongs and pour boiling water from a kettle over the coil,sometimes I'll carefully scrub the coil with a toothbrush.I do find that if I don't change the flavour (I'm a menthol fan) then a really good dry burn works well also.
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