The twisp hate? Is it real or are we sheep?

[Kamiel]

Twisp hate is more of an effort in self-parody than in hating on the product. Most of the community wouldn't exist as it does in SA without it. But it's a really crap device, compared to say the the Ego One or the iJust 2, and we're just kicking ourselves about those days.

Also I don't appreciate that Twisps are very expensive, and very, very limited when compared to other devices in the price point (compare the big Twisp to the iJust 2 for example). Their liquids too are ridiculously priced. Gourmet import is a far better investment and you get more ML too.

My major personal gripes with it (and I had the first one that looked like a cigarette, and the second and third gen stainless ones later), was that it just wasn't better than smoking. It felt like a chore: leaking issues abounded and every other coil head was a dud, immediately forcing me to buy smokes. I just didn't get what I paid for.

A far better experience came from a larger vape pen battery from Vapemob, that I paired with a Protank. It didn't break the bank so I didn't care when it went wrong and it was just better to live with. That was what got me into buying my first mech, then the eGrip, then the iStick 50/Atlantis... etc, etc.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Twisp got me off Stinkies but it was an expensive 2-3 weeks until I got an eGo and mPT2 to replace them... I couldn't handle the juice in my mouth.

But I love Twisp for it's marketing and business plan and the fact it helps a lot of people stop smoking... and then they use Google and the rest is history!

 

[Silver]

The Twisp Clearo got me off smoking in Oct 13 and kept me off it for about a month or two
I am grateful to Twisp

 

[Spydro]

All of us big drippers, reos, RTA and rdta owners look at twisp vapers like they are stupid snobs... But why? Are we following the herd like sheep?
What do you personally have against twisp?
Myself? About 2years ago I bought a full twisp setup, I battled on it for a month and was back on cigs. It just didn't help me personally and so I'm biased against twisp.
What's your story?

While I do have 32 of them, I am NOT a Reo snob. I just found that they filled my vaping niche so well that they became my mech's of choice. And I have zero experience or knowledge about the Twisp gear.

But I got a chuckle out of the "Is it real or are we sheep?". I am in a strange mood that dictates I add this media to this thread (that is not intended to offend anyone).

http://wildcalls2k.com/spy/lostsheep.mp3

 

[Christos]

All of us big drippers, reos, RTA and rdta owners look at twisp vapers like they are stupid snobs... But why? Are we following the herd like sheep?
What do you personally have against twisp?
Myself? About 2years ago I bought a full twisp setup, I battled on it for a month and was back on cigs. It just didn't help me personally and so I'm biased against twisp.
What's your story?

On the contrary I think a lot of other device users look at the reo users as snobs.
I too started with twisp and they are in the possession of my FIL that I gave them to.
The devices worked well to get me off stinkies and I commend twisp for their strategy. No other company has a presence like they do in almost every mall and no other company has market reach like they do.
Their product may be inferior but they are doing things right.
If regulation hit SA they might be one of the few companies that survive because they have a strategy.

That being said, I have spent a lot of monies finding a device that satisfies and is robust and I have also spent a lot on trash.
I was a heavy smoker so the twist was flat by 10am (both of them) so I ventured out only to be dissapointed by devices that would break or malfunction even though they were cheaper.

My 2 twisps are actually still functional today even with their annoying leaking.

Makes you wonder about some of the products on the market.

 

[Spydro]

On the contrary I think a lot of other device users look at the reo users as snobs.
I too started with twisp and they are in the possession of my FIL that I gave them to.
The devices worked well to get me off stinkies and I commend twisp for their strategy. No other company has a presence like they do in almost every mall and no other company has market reach like they do.
Their product may be inferior but they are doing things right.
If regulation hit SA they might be one of the few companies that survive because they have a strategy.

That being said, I have spent a lot of monies finding a device that satisfies and is robust and I have also spent a lot on trash.
I was a heavy smoker so the twist was flat by 10am (both of them) so I ventured out only to be dissapointed by devices that would break or malfunction even though they were cheaper.

My 2 twisps are actually still functional today even with their annoying leaking.

Makes you wonder about some of the products on the market.

I can relate in regards to the Halo G6 gear I first started with. I did the research work myself and chose them as the best KR808's available back then with their mini tanks. They worked as advertised, I didn't use them very long, still have them and they would work the same now. I was already off the stinkies/pipes and had never been addicted to nic that I remember, so I thought they'd be enough to see if I wanted to vape at all. But they all too soon didn't do what I wanted my gear to do.

 

[M5000]

I like the distinction that has been made between the purpose that Twisp served and their business strategy.

They did a great job getting people off stinkies and introducing them to vaping. So they served the purpose very well.

Definitely great marketing, but other than that I personally dislike the short-term business strategy. I think building a long-term customer relationship is a much more honourable approach to any business strategy. At the end of the day we are no longer loyal to the brand. So from a hit-and-run business mentality they did a fantastic job and if the plan was to get rich and retire then it looks like it worked well and we can't hate them for that, but they have lost our loyalty.

 

[DrSirus-88]

Twisp and there marketing were brilliant. I had the original Twisp before they even had little stores everywhere. I then had every one they had to offer. They still didn't help me get off the stinkies however they did help me cut down.

Also thankful to them for leading me down the path to Vaping the bad boys we are vaping today as this has helped me stop completely. The flavours have been unbelievable, the gadgets and gear available now is awesome and I have an addiction to searching for that something new and Iv probably spent a lot more money on vaping then i would have on stinkies but more then willing to do that for a healthier lifestyle.

 

[MoneymanVape]

Got a twist for xmas from my fiance last year. Was lookong into buying a esig. Well was still busy with reach etc and well she bought me one as a surprise. She went all out and got the aero with a bottle of juice I think it cost her around R1000. I was very surprised. At that moment i was not part of this form and well didnt realy know of other devices on the market exempt those cheap chinese stuff. So 1st day i smoked 2 siggies next day 1 and 3de day no siggies just vape. The juice hit my throat like a mofo but i stuck to it. I managed to find esigsa and chated to @ Nightwalker and he introduced me to a whatsapp group in p.e. and well the rest is history. After 3 mounthes i bought a cuboid and serpent tank and never looked back. I now own a Noisy cricket (witch i won in a cloud comp) and a Tsunami rta by geekvape. Very hapy. And i have started diy juice. So all in all yes twisp is expensive but get my respect as it got me of the stinkies.
Thanks to this forum, ec vape squad and all the nice vapours out there. Murch respect ☺

 

[Nightwalker]

Got a twist for xmas from my fiance last year. Was lookong into buying a esig. Well was still busy with reach etc and well she bought me one as a surprise. She went all out and got the aero with a bottle of juice I think it cost her around R1000. I was very surprised. At that moment i was not part of this form and well didnt realy know of other devices on the market exempt those cheap chinese stuff. So 1st day i smoked 2 siggies next day 1 and 3de day no siggies just vape. The juice hit my throat like a mofo but i stuck to it. I managed to find esigsa and chated to @ Nightwalker and he introduced me to a whatsapp group in p.e. and well the rest is history. After 3 mounthes i bought a cuboid and serpent tank and never looked back. I now own a Noisy cricket (witch i won in a cloud comp) and a Tsunami rta by geekvape. Very hapy. And i have started diy juice. So all in all yes twisp is expensive but get my respect as it got me of the stinkies.
Thanks to this forum, ec vape squad and all the nice vapours out there. Murch respect ☺

You are welcome bud

 

[KlutcH]

Twisp got me off cigs and introduced me to a whole different world. I dislike their customer service thats about it.

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[NewOobY]

I was very ignorant when i started vaping - I was basically forced to by the health police at home a.k.a wife lady. She wanted me off cigs and she made it very difficult for me to continue smoking. So yes like most other beginner vapes I started on the twisp because they are so "out there" and very visible in most shopping centeres. I happily vaped that for 2 years this was before the edge came out, and was like that until very recently actually. So I am quite pleased with the fact that I actually stopped smoking using twisp, and I believe they are really a gateway into proper vaping.

I then discovered that there are other vape shops, that were not ridiculously priced. I mean I knew that other vape shops existed, but holly smokes when you go on there websites as a noobie vaper you see these devices on the home page that cost the same as my bike repayment at the time. So I was like nope stick to twisp, they cheap. Little did I know right?

Anyways - I never look down on twisp vapers, at least they not smoking. Also when people as me about vaping I always suggest starting on a twisp to get a feel for it, then they can upgrade to other better and stronger devices.

 

[zadiac]

Never had twisp. Used a Green Smoke Cig-a-like for about a month between the smoking. This caused me to smoke about half as much as normal, but I wanted to quit completely.

Then @Alex (whom I've known since 2007) suggested the Nemesis mod and the Kayfun Lite at Vape King. Bought those, started building coils immediately (with the help of Alex and Youtube) and it's been pretty much downhill (without brakes) from there. So I guess this makes @Alex my vape guru

I cannot comment on Twisp as I've never tried it. I just go on what other people are saying about it.

 

[WARMACHINE]

Twisp got me off cigarettes, but their inferior product and lousy service got me looking for other products. Thankfully there were great alternatives. Unfortunately I know more people that have tried Twisp and gone back to cigarettes than not. Most first time users are not even aware of coil and tank maintenance and the Twisp product deteriorates very quickly

 

[RichJB]

I wanted to get off tobacco in 2009 and bought one of the early Twisp kits. It was very expensive back then (over R1400) and was a kit where you had to drop the liquid into the cotton part of the mouthpiece. But there really wasn't much else available. I got frustrated with the short battery life, the puny clouds and the constant recharging and filling. So, after a while, I ditched it and went back to tobacco.

In Jan this year, I quit tobacco again. As I wanted a nicotine substitute to help me and as Twisp was the only brand name I knew, I went to their website and looked up the available models. I bought the smallest model and, again, it didn't quite do it for me. Very small clouds, gurgly and leaking tank, proprietary battery that doesn't last long. I then bought a VaporZone Air which I found to be much better. Until the VaporZone, in turn, became insufficient and I went to a full mod & sub-ohm tank setup.

I don't have anything against Twisp. As others have said, they have built a brand position of being the first port of call for Saffie smokers who want to quit but who haven't yet researched the sub-ohm market. There may be many people who are totally satisfied with their Twisp experience. That I am not one of them doesn't invalidate the product. Different strokes for different folks. Again as others have said, Twisp merely advertising their product in the mainstream media is a huge service for the vaping industry as it lets smokers know there are alternatives to patches and gum. So more power to them.

 

[theyettie]

Non vapers almost die when I hand them a mod and a Griffin. Twisp is a good stepping stone IMO.

They don't do well on drippers either... BAHAHAHAHAHA

I've got a cocky friend that has always done something better or more extreme or gone further on holiday, etc. You get the idea. So naturally he could hit my Velocity better than me. He almost puked from all the coughing... T'was good fun.

 

[Neal]

I wanted to get off tobacco in 2009 and bought one of the early Twisp kits. It was very expensive back then (over R1400) and was a kit where you had to drop the liquid into the cotton part of the mouthpiece. But there really wasn't much else available. I got frustrated with the short battery life, the puny clouds and the constant recharging and filling. So, after a while, I ditched it and went back to tobacco.

In Jan this year, I quit tobacco again. As I wanted a nicotine substitute to help me and as Twisp was the only brand name I knew, I went to their website and looked up the available models. I bought the smallest model and, again, it didn't quite do it for me. Very small clouds, gurgly and leaking tank, proprietary battery that doesn't last long. I then bought a VaporZone Air which I found to be much better. Until the VaporZone, in turn, became insufficient and I went to a full mod & sub-ohm tank setup.

I don't have anything against Twisp. As others have said, they have built a brand position of being the first port of call for Saffie smokers who want to quit but who haven't yet researched the sub-ohm market. There may be many people who are totally satisfied with their Twisp experience. That I am not one of them doesn't invalidate the product. Different strokes for different folks. Again as others have said, Twisp merely advertising their product in the mainstream media is a huge service for the vaping industry as it lets smokers know there are alternatives to patches and gum. So more power to them.

Hello mate, firstly welcome to the forum. Very well put forward post, you observation about their marketing is spot on. Do not mean to be a doomsayer, but the new EU regulations last week seemed to be overshadowed by FDA regs that were announced. Part of EU regs will ban all advertising of ecigs in the media. Will this happen this side of the world? let's see...

 

[RichJB]

Hi Neal, thanks very much for the warm welcome, and good to hear from a Swazilander! I'm an ex-SD, was born and raised in Mbabane but emigrated to Joburg in the 1980s.

I suspect vaping ads will be banned in due course. I must admit, I was quite surprised to see a Twisp TV ad. Given the world's attitude towards 'smoking' (in any form), I'd have thought vaping ads would be banned already.

However, even if they are banned shortly, I think the Twisp ads have done a lot to bring vaping into the mainstream. At the moment, I think vaping is in the same space that personal computing was when I bought my first 286 back in 1990. Back then, the computing industry consisted of hardcore supporters who had been using computers since the ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64 and other early models. Yet the bulk of the population hadn't even heard of Windows or a mouse or VGA. When I bought my first computer, I remember family and friends asking "Huh? What do you even use it for?"

That's where vaping is now imo. On the one hand, you have the hardcore vets who have been doing it since the start and can now cite TCR figures for every type of metal from memory. On the other, you still have large swathes of the (smoking) public who don't know what an RDA or 18650 or TC or Kanthal even is. It's an exciting time for the industry.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

They don't do well on drippers either... BAHAHAHAHAHA

I've got a cocky friend that has always done something better or more extreme or gone further on holiday, etc. You get the idea. So naturally he could hit my Velocity better than me. He almost puked from all the coughing... T'was good fun.

Hahahaha same thing happened to me with my mate... he just grabbed my mod with the Griffin running dual 3mm 8 wrap Claptons at 80 watts... and some Special Reserve at 6mg. IDK the way he hit the thing was pretty ruthless I could see the timer reach 3.6 seconds... his first ever vape.

But now the sad thing is he is totally put off vaping. I should have stopped him and gotten the Subtank out, 20 watts on a stock coil, and maybe some Smackaroon or Mad Hatter something friendly to show him the deliciousness of premium juice. I had a laugh but reflecting on it I was doing the wrong thing eh.

 

[brotiform]

I originally used a Green Smoke when I tried quitting the first time. They suck.

 

[Eequinox]

My twisp hate is real ... last week was watching how staff at a twisp kiosk were telling people to only buy their juices as all other juices out there contain "Popcorn lung" .The customer then asked how long will a bottle of juice last and she told him two months.He then asked how long would coils last and she told him three weeks.

Is it me or are their staff under trained or are they just drones pushing sales

I politely kept my distance and waited till the salesperson finished with the customer walked up to her and asked her what popcorn lung was she then told me its a chemical that rots your lungs.I then told here i think she needs to do a bit of reasearch and walked away

 

[DrSirus-88]

My twisp hate is real ... last week was watching how staff at a twisp kiosk were telling people to only buy their juices as all other juices out there contain "Popcorn lung" .The customer then asked how long will a bottle of juice last and she told him two months.He then asked how long would coils last and she told him three weeks.

Is it me or are their staff under trained or are they just drones pushing sales

I politely kept my distance and waited till the salesperson finished with the customer walked up to her and asked her what popcorn lung was she then told me its a chemical that rots your lungs.I then told here i think she needs to do a bit of reasearch and walked away

Well done @Eequinox. Agree with the under trained and possibly just pushing sales but the fact that they slating other Vape juices etc is not on

 

[Vape0206]

Im a new vaper.

Started a few months ago when i found my fathers twisp. I wasnt planning on getting of the traditional ciggrettes but thought it would be cool to have something with some flavour.

Im still using the twisp device and smoking ciggarettes at the same time(been smoking ciggarettes less now recently). I am looking to eventually quit once i get me some proper vape gear.

As for the twisp. I think its a good starting point because it made me do research on the vaping community when i wasnt even planning on quiting traditional ciggarettes.

 

[Eequinox]

Im a new vaper.

Started a few months ago when i found my fathers twisp. I wasnt planning on getting of the traditional ciggrettes but thought it would be cool to have something with some flavour.

Im still using the twisp device and smoking ciggarettes at the same time(been smoking ciggarettes less now recently). I am looking to eventually quit once i get me some proper vape gear.

As for the twisp. I think its a good starting point because it made me do research on the vaping community when i wasnt even planning on quiting traditional ciggarettes.

I agree on that 100% i suppose my bias is based on the way the do things or how their employees do things i started on a twisp myself and have been 10 months stinkie free

 

[Henx]

Im a new vaper.

Started a few months ago when i found my fathers twisp. I wasnt planning on getting of the traditional ciggrettes but thought it would be cool to have something with some flavour.

Im still using the twisp device and smoking ciggarettes at the same time(been smoking ciggarettes less now recently). I am looking to eventually quit once i get me some proper vape gear.

As for the twisp. I think its a good starting point because it made me do research on the vaping community when i wasnt even planning on quiting traditional ciggarettes.

I agree that its a good starting point but for some though. when i was smoking i was told about twisps and that i should try one. i had a go at the stand they have at our local mall and i did not like it at all. but it did spark some interest i will admit. a few months of research and procrastination I bought a good vape and have been smoke free for almost 7 months now.