Will Vape Shops (including online) be able to trade from 1 May 2020

I’ve heard a lot of people talk about using the organic cotton from dischem , I know their are some procedures to follow to remove any impurities etc so it is a bit of effort but regardless it’s better than nothing . I’m sure someone from the group who’s used the cotton personally can pm you with the whole process if you need it .
Yip will have a look in to it, i still have one strip of bacon left so will last about 2 weeks but seems it will come to dis-chem cotton sooner or later ;(
 
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Is Sirvape delivering from their essential list? I ordered from their list and got confirmation of my order two days ago. Since then there has been radio silence.
 
I doubt we will be at lvl 3 before that

Well, initially lockdown was not just to curb the spread of the virus, which is slightly inevitable, it was mostly geared towards the curb of the spread in anticipation of getting the medical services, e.g. hospitals, to a point that it could deal with the number of infections.

Personally, and people may differ with me on this but it's my opinion, I think we will be in lockdown lvl 3 by the end of the month or so as they cannot sustain such a extended period of no business. What they can do is to ban the sale of nicotine related items for a longer period though and this will directly affect us.
 
I think I agree with you, if we take into account the number of beds in conference centres, the import of Cuban medical staff, the rush for PPE and ventilators then I think you are onto something. There is enormous pressure from the big boys now, the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, the retail outlets and food suppliers and the tourism industry.
Flattening the curve was always about being able to handle the medical requirements, it was never about eradicating the virus. Only herd immunity or a vaccine will do that.
This is why I have said that life will not be the same again ... ever. I hug my mates when I see them, that is a practice that will have to stop among many other things. if I have to wear a mask to a meeting ... so be it.
 
I’ve heard a lot of people talk about using the organic cotton from dischem , I know their are some procedures to follow to remove any impurities etc so it is a bit of effort but regardless it’s better than nothing . I’m sure someone from the group who’s used the cotton personally can pm you with the whole process if you need it .

Back in the day I used the Dischem cotton as it came out of the bag. No issues!
 
I also got a mail today that my parcel is on its way.
But it same accessories for my DIY mixing
 
Order yesterday at 16:00, courier guy just dropped off my scale.
No more syringes for me
 
This whole no nicotine situation is just so sad

I wish we can come out of it, even if vendors were allowed e-commerce only

Why should vaping CBD juice be allowed but not nicotine juice?
How does that influence the spread of the virus?

We have to respect the rules but I cannot help but feel terrible for those people that have run out of juice.
@Silver they want to chill people out so the lockdown will be more manageable.
2. They jumped onto the CBD train and now they're making people want to use it because there's too much stock sitting around.( Vendors are now using this to make some sales and vapers are trying to get what they really need this way while the revenue for the government goes up)
3. @Jean claude Vaaldamme has a very good point. Kiepie is a box. Because even of I could get other stuff I really needed Kiepie would just screw the guys business by showing off.
 
I think I agree with you, if we take into account the number of beds in conference centres, the import of Cuban medical staff, the rush for PPE and ventilators then I think you are onto something. There is enormous pressure from the big boys now, the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, the retail outlets and food suppliers and the tourism industry.
Flattening the curve was always about being able to handle the medical requirements, it was never about eradicating the virus. Only herd immunity or a vaccine will do that.
This is why I have said that life will not be the same again ... ever. I hug my mates when I see them, that is a practice that will have to stop among many other things. if I have to wear a mask to a meeting ... so be it.
A few weeks back a couple of Drs asked for the lifting of lockdown and aired their reasons. They said hospitals were empty etc. I'm not going into detail, there are videos. Now imagine my surprise about a week or two ago when I heard about the extra imported Dr. Mail and the setup of ER centers.
It seems very confusing. Don't these people have an idea of what to do next? Or are they just playing the cards on the table or skipping the dice on a monopoly board.?
 
@Silver they want to chill people out so the lockdown will be more manageable.
2. They jumped onto the CBD train and now they're making people want to use it because there's too much stock sitting around.( Vendors are now using this to make some sales and vapers are trying to get what they really need this way while the revenue for the government goes up)
3. @Jean claude Vaaldamme has a very good point. Kiepie is a box. Because even of I could get other stuff I really needed Kiepie would just screw the guys business by showing off.
With reference to Kiepie and for fear that I may be it... when you guys say showing off on social media, do you include this forum as part of that? If so, apologies for posting my lockdown Vape mail in here yesterday!
 
A few weeks back a couple of Drs asked for the lifting of lockdown and aired their reasons. They said hospitals were empty etc. I'm not going into detail, there are videos. Now imagine my surprise about a week or two ago when I heard about the extra imported Dr. Mail and the setup of ER centers.
It seems very confusing. Don't these people have an idea of what to do next? Or are they just playing the cards on the table or skipping the dice on a monopoly board.?

I have a family member that is an anesthesiologist and he can attest to how empty the hospitals are , he is currently earning 1/10th of his normal income because not only are there no emergency room visits from kiddies falling off their bikes but selective work is being cancelled as people fear the hospital . The Cuban story is another point of contention in the medical community, R2mil per doctor to handle corona is considered a good salary but it becomes criminal considering it’s unlikely they pay tax on it. Not my personal views , just reiterating his point of view as a medical practitioner.
 
I have a family member that is an anesthesiologist and he can attest to how empty the hospitals are , he is currently earning 1/10th of his normal income because not only are there no emergency room visits from kiddies falling off their bikes but selective work is being cancelled as people fear the hospital . The Cuban story is another point of contention in the medical community, R2mil per doctor to handle corona is considered a good salary but it becomes criminal considering it’s unlikely they pay tax on it. Not my personal views , just reiterating his point of view as a medical practitioner.
And if you were not a medical practitioner and living like half the country from hand to mouth then your story would surely change. (I know you worked hard for what you got and nothing was easy).
Thats why I said Corona is fair. Maybe the most fair thing of this Century. I't doesn't matter how rich or clever you are. How much you got saved up. What kind of work you do.the house you live in. It's accessible to everyone.
 
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With reference to Kiepie and for fear that I may be it... when you guys say showing off on social media, do you include this forum as part of that? If so, apologies for posting my lockdown Vape mail in here yesterday!
I don't know who's kiepie. All I'm saying is of you want to post. Don't say where you got it from unless it's CBD. The legal thing right now and Mabe a few coils or pods for the CBD.
 
And if you were not a medical practitioner and living like half the country from hand to mouth then your story would surely change. (I know you worked hard for what you got and nothing was easy).
Thats why I said Corona is fair. Maybe the most fair thing of this Century. I't doesn't matter how rich or clever you are. How much you got saved up. What kind of work you do.tje house you live in. It's accessible to everyone.

Granted it’s important to consider that with a higher income and a far greater level of expertise , a higher standard of living becomes the norm and thus your expenses reflect that . Don’t get it twisted when it comes to income and it’s correlation with the effect of corona virus , yes those who quite literally live pay cheque to pay cheque most certainly have it worse than those who are more comfortable but keep in mind that as of right now there is no real way to drop all of your larger and more important expenses such as your mortgage , vehicle fees , school fees etc etc to meet your now significantly lower income as a result of the virus. Medical practitioners are also required to belong to a medical protection society if they want to work in a surgical environment and those insurance policies can run up to R1,5mil a year even if you earn nothing . You might have a pocket dig to into if you are strapped for cash but you might not and if you don’t well then the issue only multiplies .

I do agree that it is however one of the most fair instances of natural disaster mankind has seen in decades because everybody gets screwed.
 
Granted it’s important to consider that with a higher income and a far greater level of expertise , a higher standard of living becomes the norm and thus your expenses reflect that . Don’t get it twisted when it comes to income and it’s correlation with the effect of corona virus , yes those who quite literally live pay cheque to pay cheque most certainly have it worse than those who are more comfortable but keep in mind that as of right now there is no real way to drop all of your larger and more important expenses such as your mortgage , vehicle fees , school fees etc etc to meet your now significantly lower income as a result of the virus. Medical practitioners are also required to belong to a medical protection society if they want to work in a surgical environment and those insurance policies can run up to R1,5mil a year even if you earn nothing . You might have a pocket dig to into if you are strapped for cash but you might not and if you don’t well then the issue only multiplies .

I do agree that it is however one of the most fair instances of natural disaster mankind has seen in decades because everybody gets screwed.
And that is my point. We all have bills,needs and things we need to see too. What makes anybody superior to our situation. They are borrowing money and paying it out on something that was said to have been sorted out by our medical professionals. So who's lying? Or are they doing Dr. Mail for future business.
They could have given that opportunity to your cousin who has to take the 1/10 paycut. It might not have been his major,but I'm sure he clever enough to remember what he's learnt in med school to migrate his expertise.

Now if I can see that then I don't see why you can't.
 
And that is my point. We all have bills,needs and things we need to see too. What makes anybody superior to our situation. They are borrowing money and paying it out on something that was said to have been sorted out by our medical professionals. So who's lying? Or are they doing Dr. Mail for future business.
They could have given that opportunity to your cousin who has to take the 1/10 paycut. It might not have been his major,but I'm sure he clever enough to remember what he's learnt in med school to migrate.

Now if I can see that then I don't see why you can't.

It looks like we are arguing the same point. The Cuban doctor situation isn’t clear to anybody besides those in the government , perhaps the situation in public hospitals are more dire and they are needed there but this was done without consulting any of the medical societies , private hospitals etc so it has been taken very personally by the practitioners this side . “Dr Mail” is most likely political to some extent and needed to another but granted without any consultation with all of the relevant parties it looks to be far more political than anything else. My cousin is coincidentally currently in the process of migrating to Canada.
 
It looks like we are arguing the same point. The Cuban doctor situation isn’t clear to anybody besides those in the government , perhaps the situation in public hospitals are more dire and they are needed there but this was done without consulting any of the medical societies , private hospitals etc so it has been taken very personally by the practitioners this side . “Dr Mail” is most likely political to some extent and needed to another but granted without any consultation with all of the relevant parties it looks to be far more political than anything else. My cousin is coincidentally currently in the process of migrating to Canada.

And those are the things that's been done wrong.
Offer them a package to go work in a public institute in the mean time.
They can say no, but they were offered.
Same as in other fields of trade.
They are also helping Madagascar but people are robbing food stores here. What happened to the so called food packages.
We had load shedding but a main electric line went to Zimbabwe.
We only say something if it affects us directly.
We need to open a politics thread. Instead of taking over threads like this.
 
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