HE v non-HE

My stripped Alien mod, coupled with the original OBS crius kicks ass. :pesas:


Nobody, besides ourselves really gives a rats ass about our vape setup. Whatever works best to keep you off cigarettes is all that matters.

Sincerely
Alex
 
Each to his own, in vaping as in life.

The HE game is a divisive one - that's half the point of HE: I have it and you don't, I could get it and you couldn't. However, it's exclusivity is no guarantee of quality or performance. That's why it's called high end and not high quality or high performance. There is HE gear that is faulty or finicky and that can be matched in performance by many mainstream items.

There isn't much HE gear I would want to buy, not because I can't get it or can't afford it, but because I don't believe it provides value for money. That's just me - I'm more of a practical person.

I certainly don't want to stop seeing HE gear being posted and discussed here, I would never have known about the HE side of things if it wasn't for @Rob Fisher and his enthusiasm for it. I may think that most of the stab wood mods look ridiculous, but I still want to look!

But I believe that any of us who feels kak about themselves or their gear after checking out a HE post is being disingenuous with themselves - nobody can make you feel bad, that's your own reaction. Someone else has decided to prioritize spending their money on HE gear, but that's all - it doesn't mean they're special/better.

As long as we're vaping and sharing our experiences with each other, that's all that matters.
 
daniel craig said:
Limited numbers; Very Rare; Not mass produced. The materials and processes that go into making 1 mod is a lot which is why the cost his high.
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So if it was exactly the same product, produced to the exact same spec and was easier to get (still expensive though), it would not be considered high end?
 
Well not sure if this was mentioned but last night Craig from @SirVape mentioned that he got in trouble for importing the sxk BB.

Just wondering if this was from BB or actual members of the forum/ Vaping community in general.

I first learned of the BB on the forum and started hunting a authentic but R10k is above and beyond my budget. The guys from @SirVape actually gave me a more affordable option and in my opinion no fowl was done as the BB is so hard to get even if you can afford it the chance of getting one is really slim due to the small amount being released every two week.

The is unfortunately the same problem with a lot of HE vaping gear. In my opinion a lot of the he guys is keeping there production limited to put a huge price tag on their products.



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I personally don't care for labelling a product as HE or not.
If it is good value for money then I'll buy it, be it a Pico, BB, SM or ESG.

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Comrad Juju said:
Well not sure if this was mentioned but last night Craig from @SirVape mentioned that he got in trouble for importing the sxk BB.

Just wondering if this was from BB or actual members of the forum/ Vaping community in general.

I first learned of the BB on the forum and started hunting a authentic but R10k is above and beyond my budget. The guys from @SirVape actually gave me a more affordable option and in my opinion no fowl was done as the BB is so hard to get even if you can afford it the chance of getting one is really slim due to the small amount being released every two week.

The is unfortunately the same problem with a lot of HE vaping gear. In my opinion a lot of the he guys is keeping there production limited to put a huge price tag on their products.



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Interesting... and here all along Thought it was @Sir Vape that blocked our group buy...
 
Comrad Juju said:
Well not sure if this was mentioned but last night Craig from @SirVape mentioned that he got in trouble for importing the sxk BB.
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Not to derail the thread or cause further "controversy"

Why would he be in trouble for that ? Plenty vendors import clones without any issues ?
Could it be due to the recent issues with a certain group buy ? Seems a bit too coincidental ......

I for one commend them for bringing such a great device to the masses.
Currently own two SXK BRRT Boxes , one from a "private" group buy and one from Sir Vape .... there the cat's out the bag :p
 
Daniel said:
Not to derail the thread or cause further "controversy"

Why would he be in trouble for that ? Plenty vendors import clones without any issues ?
Could it be due to the recent issues with a certain group buy ? Seems a bit too coincidental ......

I for one commend them for bringing such a great device to the masses.
Currently own two SXK BRRT Boxes , one from a "private" group buy and one from Sir Vape .... there the cat's out the bag :p
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Well it was mentioned in his stream last night was a bit of a shock for me.



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Daniel said:
Not to derail the thread or cause further "controversy"

Why would he be in trouble for that ? Plenty vendors import clones without any issues ?
Could it be due to the recent issues with a certain group buy ? Seems a bit too coincidental ......

I for one commend them for bringing such a great device to the masses.
Currently own two SXK BRRT Boxes , one from a "private" group buy and one from Sir Vape .... there the cat's out the bag :p
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Becaue people with a lot of sway obviously got him over the fingers... not that their sway matters at all, because they no longer push products available at the sirs, so if I was a sir, I would just shrug their reprimands off.

And even if it was trouble from BBVapor themselves, who gives a shit, SV does not stock authentics anyway.
 
My aim is not to WOW vapers, but to make smokers curious so that they ask questions and I then answer them and a lot of the time, I sway them into the right direction. I don't give a crap what vapers think of my setup. My aim is smokers. Simple as that.
 
That's actually sad for vaping in SA - SA vapers cut their teeth on clones because they had to, now clones are looked down upon. I for one feel that I don't have the right to tell anyone how to run their businesses. A big problem in this country actually, vendors offer a service, supply a market that needs their products & then those exact same needy consumers now feel they have the right to dictate how they do it - yes to a certain extent they can, but not to the extent of deciding & dictating their inventory.
 
boxerulez said:
Becaue people with a lot of sway obviously got him over the fingers... not that their sway matters at all, because they no longer push products available at the sirs, so if I was a sir, I would just shrug their reprimands off.

And even if it was trouble from BBVapor themselves, who gives a shit, SV does not stock authentics anyway.
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Obviously some HE users don't want the sxk BB to take of to much, if every second guy has one it will ruin the HE aspect of it.
 
Silver said:
If your comment refers to the recent derailed Skyline Group Buy thread, and how certain posts were moved into another thread - well that is just to keep that original Skyline Group Buy thread on topic.

I have offered to rename that other thread, but it seems this thread has taken centre stage on this topic now.

Anyone is free to have opinions on any gear - be it high end or not. As long as people don't get personal or offensive - and as long as the general forum principles and spirit are kept in tact - then there is no problem.
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See now you mentioned "gear" so we not allowed to comment or question a certain members conduct ?
wikus said:
Obviously some HE users don't want the sxk BB to take of to much, if every second guy has one it will ruin the HE aspect of it.
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I think that ship has sailed ...... no exact numbers but definitely more SXK version out there in SA than the authentics :)
 
Deckie said:
You need 5
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LOL , I'll just buy a bunch of Borros and Exo Clones , then whatever juice I feel like have it ready to go with a fresh wicked build .....

No one "needs" 5 :p
 
Personally I have no problems with clones if no legal rights are infringed, but I respect and accept the point of view of people who think otherwise.

Fact is, if members do not sing the praises and show the functionality or point out the problems with authentic stuff, be it HE or not, I might not even have considered looking at the clones if I could not afford the real thing.
 
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