HE v non-HE

It will be a sad day when one or a few people on this forum, have enough might to control what & where we buy vape gear from....
 
There's a certain air of snobbishness that comes across from a few of the HE owners, and that alone makes me steer faaaaaaar away from investing in anything of that ilk. Much like I did a couple of years ago with the REO hype.

Each to his own, I guess. Though I personally have no interest in getting into that game. I don't understand a R7000 mod, run by a chip that will, chances are, be old and defunct in 6 months time.
 
Guys... there is no rule against doing a group buy for clones... just do it in the group buy section.
 
I normally try and refrain from commenting on posts like these.

Such is life and each to their own.
It’s your choice where and on what you spend your hard earned cash.
Some spend it on expensive cars, clothing and electronics.

Do you feel ashamed when walking around at your local supermarket in so called ‘’no name brand’’ clothing?
Do you feel ashamed when driving on the freeway and a Ferarri comes flying past you?

NO, so why feel ashamed of posting ‘’non HE’’ devices on the forum?

As for the price point on ‘’HE’’ devices.

To design, manufacture and test devices take time and money.
Some ‘’HE’’ companies take months to develop a device.
From 3D rendering, to manufacturing prototypes, testing and making changes where it is flawed.

I was recently told by a reliable source, that to manufacture a single deck of the ESG Skyline RTA takes around 20-30min.
Just for one deck.

As we all know time = money.

Most ‘’HE’’ companies are a 1, maybe 2 man operation.
Factories in China can push out 100’s if not 1000’s of units within the same time frame, thus having a lower cost.

Just take a look at iJoy for example, how many versions of their RDTA has been released?
A total of 5 if I am not mistaken in the time frame of 1 year

Why, because they use us (the consumers) as their guinea pigs, to test their products and then they start fixing any issues.

Kylin RTA by Vandy Vapes, not even on the local market for 3 weeks, already a newer/ updated version being released.

This does not happen in the ‘’HE’’ market, simply because they take their time with testing prototypes and in the end this cost money.
I stand to be corrected, but the NarDA has been around for 2 years without any revision, and is still to date a very sought after RDA, fetching crazy prices ranging between 300-500$.

I’m not here to bash anyone or the devise they use, just respect other people and their choices.
There is no need for hate, buy what you want and can afford, and enjoy it,

As simple as that.
 
I normally try and refrain from commenting on posts like these.

Such is life and each to their own.
It’s your choice where and on what you spend your hard earned cash.
Some spend it on expensive cars, clothing and electronics.

Do you feel ashamed when walking around at your local supermarket in so called ‘’no name brand’’ clothing?
Do you feel ashamed when driving on the freeway and a Ferarri comes flying past you?

NO, so why feel ashamed of posting ‘’non HE’’ devices on the forum?

As for the price point on ‘’HE’’ devices.

To design, manufacture and test devices take time and money.
Some ‘’HE’’ companies take months to develop a device.
From 3D rendering, to manufacturing prototypes, testing and making changes where it is flawed.

I was recently told by a reliable source, that to manufacture a single deck of the ESG Skyline RTA takes around 20-30min.
Just for one deck.

As we all know time = money.

Most ‘’HE’’ companies are a 1, maybe 2 man operation.
Factories in China can push out 100’s if not 1000’s of units within the same time frame, thus having a lower cost.

Just take a look at iJoy for example, how many versions of their RDTA has been released?
A total of 5 if I am not mistaken in the time frame of 1 year

Why, because they use us (the consumers) as their guinea pigs, to test their products and then they start fixing any issues.

Kylin RTA by Vandy Vapes, not even on the local market for 3 weeks, already a newer/ updated version being released.

This does not happen in the ‘’HE’’ market, simply because they take their time with testing prototypes and in the end this cost money.
I stand to be corrected, but the NarDA has been around for 2 years without any revision, and is still to date a very sought after RDA, fetching crazy prices ranging between 300-500$.

I’m not here to bash anyone or the devise they use, just respect other people and their choices.
There is no need for hate, buy what you want and can afford, and enjoy it,

As simple as that.

Here Here JP!! Well said!!
 
Well not sure if this was mentioned but last night Craig from @SirVape mentioned that he got in trouble for importing the sxk BB.

Just wondering if this was from BB or actual members of the forum/ Vaping community in general.

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It`s a pity the Sirs cannot reply/respond on this thread to clarify.
 
Without being facetious, why isn't HE gear cheap and easy to get?
Not always the case, well the easy to get part anyways. "Cheap" or not would be determined by the person buying it. The Psyclone Hadaly is considered HE gear (though I have not seen any documentation to that effect:D) and is/was widely available at quite a few of the supporting vendors.
 
Not always the case, well the easy to get part anyways. "Cheap" or not would be determined by the person buying it. The Psyclone Hadaly is considered HE gear (though I have not seen any documentation to that effect:D) and is/was widely available at quite a few of the supporting vendors.

Thanks :)
Makes sense
 
I would @Rob Fisher but I couldn`t be bothered TBH. Maybe "pity" was the wrong word as I was just trying to point out the obvious.:rolleyes:
 
Guys... there is no rule against doing a group buy for clones... just do it in the group buy section.
If I remember correctly that's not what was said
Don't be such a ******* tease, show us please.
Things were said, posts were deleted, phone calls were made, and before the sun had set that day, "#underground #LE4lyfe" groups were formed off forum so as not to "displease" any forum members.
 
Will he stock the blue ones as swell?
I dont know what is coming in. There was just a whole lot of talk further up the thread and I thought why not just phone them and find out whats happening.
 
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Threads change, topics change, taste changes. I'm all about watching it unfold, and picking up a couple good deals along the way.

Just because the HE stuff is on the minds of many on this forum, doesn't mean it will always be that way. TBH, as a vaper the past year of releases from china have been fairly boring, the predator isn't all that, the RX300 and GX350 are as big as a house, the new noisy cricket is an overprotective demon soccer mom, don't get me started on the Uwell Crown 2. It just seems more and more that watts need to go higher for cheap, and devices can be as shoddily put together as possible as long as they can reach 150watts+. (not that there haven't been HE things that I find lame too) Goon LP, Kodama Minikins.

There are plenty of shapes and sizes, but for me, the smaller and more comfortable the better. Which I tend to only find on a more HE side of things (not always). Also the price difference isn't that insane. People save up for nice things they want, so we can't be putting them down when they finally get it, regardless of whether its a istick basic or Vicious Ant.
 
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